Twenty questions, round 258

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Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by DrFidelis » Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:04 pm

Now I feel dumb for not thinking of this one, of COURSE the guy who made the most recognizable ragtime music ever is a 20 questions target at some point.

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by cdngooner » Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:59 pm

I've been a Scott Joplin fan ever since "The Sting". Awesome move, awesome music.

Thanks Spartaculous. New one going up shortly.

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Wattsthematter » Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:44 pm

I'd have to agree that ragtime and blues are not "jazz." Though there wouldn't be jazz without them!

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Spartaculous » Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:17 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:08 pm
No. From Wikipedia: "Jazz is a music genre that originated in the African-American communities of New Orleans, Louisiana, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, with its roots in blues and ragtime. Since the 1920s Jazz Age, it has been recognized as a major form of musical expression in traditional and popular music. Jazz is characterized by swing and blue notes, complex chords, call and response vocals, polyrhythms and improvisation." Swing music is a subgenre of jazz music.
I apologize for being obtuse, but I still beg for clarification. "Swing is a subgenre of jazz" is clear. But by saying "the roots of jazz are in blues and ragtime", did you mean to INCLUDE blues and ragtime as part of jazz, or to DIFFERENTIATE between blues and ragtime as something different from jazz.
I think that it is clear enough: saying that jazz has roots in blues and ragtime indicates that jazz is a distinct genre from the genres of blues and ragtime. I certainly wouldn't classify Scott Joplin as a jazz composer/musician.
cdngooner wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:08 pm
 I'll lay my cards on the table. I am trying to determine if Scott Joplin is within the possible pool. If the "No" to jazz still means a possible "Yes" to ragtime, my conditional guess is: Scott Joplin. If ragtime has been excluded, I will ask a different question in due course.
And you win! Congratulations! In honor of your homeland, here's the Maple Leaf Rag:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCxLAr_bwpA

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by cdngooner » Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:08 pm

No. From Wikipedia: "Jazz is a music genre that originated in the African-American communities of New Orleans, Louisiana, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, with its roots in blues and ragtime. Since the 1920s Jazz Age, it has been recognized as a major form of musical expression in traditional and popular music. Jazz is characterized by swing and blue notes, complex chords, call and response vocals, polyrhythms and improvisation." Swing music is a subgenre of jazz music.
I apologize for being obtuse, but I still beg for clarification. "Swing is a subgenre of jazz" is clear. But by saying "the roots of jazz are in blues and ragtime", did you mean to INCLUDE blues and ragtime as part of jazz, or to DIFFERENTIATE between blues and ragtime as something different from jazz.

This is the problem with any question about artistic genres. There is never a bright line between two related genres. One always leads almost imperceptibly into the next.

I'll lay my cards on the table. I am trying to determine if Scott Joplin is within the possible pool. If the "No" to jazz still means a possible "Yes" to ragtime, my conditional guess is: Scott Joplin. If ragtime has been excluded, I will ask a different question in due course.

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Spartaculous » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:58 pm

damo666 wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:12 pm
 Primarily known as a jazz/swing musician?
No. From Wikipedia: "Jazz is a music genre that originated in the African-American communities of New Orleans, Louisiana, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, with its roots in blues and ragtime. Since the 1920s Jazz Age, it has been recognized as a major form of musical expression in traditional and popular music. Jazz is characterized by swing and blue notes, complex chords, call and response vocals, polyrhythms and improvisation." Swing music is a subgenre of jazz music.
damo666 wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:13 pm
Male?
Yes.
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:20 pm
 Born 1885 or earlier?
Yes.
cdngooner wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:32 pm
Primarily known as a jazz/swing musician?
As no musical genres have concrete boundaries, I am going to request clarification from QM as to what he defines as "jazz" and "swing", whether the answer is Yes or No, so please QM, I hope you will provide that clarification in your answer.
Wattsthematter is welcome to offer thoughts on this as well.

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by cdngooner » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:32 pm

Primarily known as a jazz/swing musician?
As no musical genres have concrete boundaries, I am going to request clarification from QM as to what he defines as "jazz" and "swing", whether the answer is Yes or No, so please QM, I hope you will provide that clarification in your answer.

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Hominidae » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:20 pm

Born 1885 or earlier?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by damo666 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:13 pm

Male?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by damo666 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:12 pm

Primarily known as a jazz/swing musician?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Spartaculous » Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:52 pm

Wattsthematter wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:18 pm
 Primarily famous for music or visual art?
Yes.
han-shahanshah wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:26 pm
 White man?
No.

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by han-shahanshah » Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:26 pm

White man?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Wattsthematter » Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:18 pm

Primarily famous for music or visual art?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Hominidae » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:44 pm

1. Real dead human
2,4,7. Born 1851-1920
3. Died in the United States, Canada, or Mexico
5. Not famous for politics, military, government, international relations, or space
6. Born in an American state that touches the ocean

NOT
OJ Simpson (DrFidelis)

PASSED
Actor, director, producer, or playwright?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Spartaculous » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:30 pm

Wattsthematter wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:22 pm
 Actor, director, producer, or playwright?
Pass.
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:28 pm
 Born in 1920 or earlier?
Yes.

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Hominidae » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:28 pm

Born in 1920 or earlier?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Wattsthematter » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:22 pm

Actor, director, producer, or playwright?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Spartaculous » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:21 pm

DarthPorg36 wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:09 pm
 Famous for involvement in politics, military, government, international relations, or space?
No.
Wattsthematter wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:12 pm
 Born in an American state that touches the ocean?
Yes.

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by Wattsthematter » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:12 pm

Born in an American state that touches the ocean?

Re: Twenty questions, round 258

by DarthPorg36 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:09 pm

Famous for involvement in politics, military, government, international relations, or space?

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