Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

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Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by taylor4 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:36 pm

Working on a dark rum, I predict for the coming year (in the manner of Nostradamus):
- Esperanto will be mandated for a certain country's Internet computing orders;
- A great king will abdicate.
- Esperanto will be picked to replace Latin and Italian at the Easter St Petrus basilica Mass;
- The college of Cardinals will add a (another) Orthodox Ukrainian;
- Major Mitchell will vote in absentia instead of abstaining on a pet issue;
- "Rabid mad capitalist dogs" will be the basis for a great Power's attack;
- Webdip will work and always for a year and a day;
- El antichristo will lose crypto banco deposits and dismiss his/her/its Switzers;
- The rum will run out.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by orathaic » Sun Dec 25, 2022 1:27 am

Given that i am in Waterford right now, i can tell you Taylor, the amount of anti-english racism here means any British Monarch trying to take over would erupt into unnecessary violence.

No fecking clue what you are talking about, Cromwell is more hated i Ireland than he is in England, and the English are still blamed for Cromwell's massacres (though the whole genocidal policy of the *checks notes* Tory government's reaction to the Great Famine of 1843... Yeah).

The Russian super-power (and fear of it) being revealed to be a paper tiger -> that Russia seems to gone from being seen to have the second strongest army in the world to the second strongest army in Ukraine... Is going to have an impact in all the countries neighbouring Russia whose security arrangements depended on the threat of the use of force by Russia.

In particular see Russian 'peace keeping' troop deployed to the Azerbaijan-Armenian border/conflict.

With specific reference to who does Russia support? Which of those two countries is 90+% Turkic ethnicity? what NATO member in the area has the second largest army in NATO, builds its own drones which is is selling to Ukraine and is a Turkic ethnicity? And tell me that Russian dominance of the area since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire (~100 years ago) is going to continue...

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Jamiet99uk » Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:58 pm

taylor4 wrote:
Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:28 pm
Going by the confounded mixture of innuendo and-or sci-fi hereinabove, and the Brexit who-ha over the N.Ireland and the Irish Republic's border, I opt for the data in a film.
The film has as a subplot the existence of "The Cromwell Arms" at the border, & an angry woman told to honeymoon there after a whirlwind romance and marriage.
Cromwell, it appears, during the Commonwealth period between Stuart kings, was one of the invaders of Eire.
To ortharaic's point, why not let the soon-to-dissolve-into Jelly Disunited Kingdom of King Charles III take over Waterford, or even County Cork. Would NATO turn on one of its own. What would Brussels and Strassburg think/do/blah blah?
Only saying.
Conversely, mount the Flag of Alexander atop Stirling Castle and remember Robert the Bruce & Wallace.
The above is not based on WHEN WILLIAM CAME, a Diplomacy 1900s takeover referencing Kaiser Wilhelm in Buckingham Palace,
etc.
Are you drunk?

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by taylor4 » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:28 pm

Going by the confounded mixture of innuendo and-or sci-fi hereinabove, and the Brexit who-ha over the N.Ireland and the Irish Republic's border, I opt for the data in a film.
The film has as a subplot the existence of "The Cromwell Arms" at the border, & an angry woman told to honeymoon there after a whirlwind romance and marriage.
Cromwell, it appears, during the Commonwealth period between Stuart kings, was one of the invaders of Eire.
To ortharaic's point, why not let the soon-to-dissolve-into Jelly Disunited Kingdom of King Charles III take over Waterford, or even County Cork. Would NATO turn on one of its own. What would Brussels and Strassburg think/do/blah blah?
Only saying.
Conversely, mount the Flag of Alexander atop Stirling Castle and remember Robert the Bruce & Wallace.
The above is not based on WHEN WILLIAM CAME, a Diplomacy 1900s takeover referencing Kaiser Wilhelm in Buckingham Palace,
etc.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by orathaic » Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:55 pm

Crazy Anglican wrote:
Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:22 am
MajorMitchell wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:46 am
In a similar way to the big scare Putin's war in Ukraine has given the nations in Westetn Europe and their responses, investing in NATO, investing in alternative energy supplies to Russian energy sources.
A big scare initiates responses, motivates the "comfortable" & apathetic into action.
One can only hope. The Ukrainians seem motivated and able, but having nations like Sweden and Finland trying to join NATO, definitely makes one stop and think. It doesn't seem as if 2022 was a year for comfortable or apathetic.
I'm not sure what your point is, but *Try* is the important word. With every other NATO country holding a veto, Turkiye or Hungary could hold this up for some time...

But also (and possibly related) Russia satellite states going to war (Azerbaijan and Armenia, whatever is happening is central Asian with the Uzbeks, Tajiks, Turkmen, and Kazakhs... Georgia probably sees an opportunity to take back land lost in 2008... If Russia is weak enough that their allied are attacked.. who knows where it will end, Chechen independence?

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Crazy Anglican » Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:22 am

MajorMitchell wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:46 am
Perhaps a benefit of Trumptoad's corrupt and dangerous acts that have threatened Democracy in the USA is the resulting mobilisation of those who now realise the threat that he and his supporters pose to their democracy, they have been shaken from apathy into action?
For most people in the USA, it seems not. At least in terms of outright activism. We are used to things going smoothly in elections and disputes being handled by lawful means. Nobody is out in the streets, this time. I think most of us have faith in the system. Hopefully we are "voting the bums out", like we have done in the past. Keeping a watchful eye on things nonetheless.
MajorMitchell wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:46 am
In a similar way to the big scare Putin's war in Ukraine has given the nations in Westetn Europe and their responses, investing in NATO, investing in alternative energy supplies to Russian energy sources.
A big scare initiates responses, motivates the "comfortable" & apathetic into action.
One can only hope. The Ukrainians seem motivated and able, but having nations like Sweden and Finland trying to join NATO, definitely makes one stop and think. It doesn't seem as if 2022 was a year for comfortable or apathetic.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by MajorMitchell » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:46 am

Perhaps a benefit of Trumptoad's corrupt and dangerous acts that have threatened Democracy in the USA is the resulting mobilisation of those who now realise the threat that he and his supporters pose to their democracy, they have been shaken from apathy into action?
In a similar way to the big scare Putin's war in Ukraine has given the nations in Westetn Europe and their responses, investing in NATO, investing in alternative energy supplies to Russian energy sources.
A big scare initiates responses, motivates the "comfortable" & apathetic into action.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Crazy Anglican » Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:14 pm

Final tally, for Trump toadies in my voting districts was that five were eliminated in the primaries, of the remaining two, one was defeated in a runoff; and only one got into office. I’ll be keeping a sharp eye on our new lieutenant governor, but the governor and Secretary of State were particular objects of the former toddler on chief’s ire. Both of them were re-elected handily.

That’s not the entirety of my state, as some election deniers got back into office in their own districts. All in all I was pleased with the results.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by MajorMitchell » Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:21 pm

Whether the Conservative Christia Evangelicals are genuine or fake Christians is a question of merit in my opinion. The hatred they express towards minorities, to anyone who disagrees with them is antithetical to the teachings of Jesus imho.
Whether I believe in the teachings of Jesus is irrelevant.
The Conservative Evangelicals profess a belief in the teachings of Jesus and consistently act in ways that are inconsistent with those teachings of Jesus.
There is a great expression of the dangers of fanatics in the movie Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy. Summarised as:
Beware the fanatic for at the core of every fanatic are repressed doubts in their belief system, that is what drives their fanaticism, their psychological need for certainty when there is no certainty. Christianity, Islamic faith, or any political.ideology, Fascism to Communism.
The Ideology, type of Religious belief are relatively unimportant when analysing the behaviour of fanatics, what is important is understanding why the fanatic is a fanatic imho. Their need to crush any opposition to their chosen belief system is the notable common denominator.
Those who are comfortable with a belief system are those who can openly discuss their doubts with their belief systems imho.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Crazy Anglican » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:33 pm

Ah, I see it does say "why do so many Christians like" him further down. To that I'd say, entrenched thinking. Seems like a lot of the conservative Evangelical set like him, but I'm not sure how closely they tie that to religion. Most people I talk to that like him, cited economic reasons.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Crazy Anglican » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:27 pm

Gwyn wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:31 pm
argue that Christians don't like him.
I'm a Christian; and I don't like him. So maybe a better title would be "Why do so many Christians..."

I don't think he fits the bill of anti-christ any more than your typical rich sociopath. 3rd world dictator wanabee? Sure. Antichrist? Hmm. He doesn't seem to have the following or charisma, I'd expect.

I do make a habit of voting against all of his down ticket toadies, just in case.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by flash2015 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:48 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:22 pm
It's been awhile since I've read the bible, but I'm pretty sure it preaches against the antichrist.

So why do so many Christians like Donald Trump? Do they justify it by saying Clinton or Biden is worse than the antichrist?
Extreme religiousness tends towards cultism. Trumpism is a cult. People drawn to one form of cult get drawn to Trumpism as well.

Off the top of my head a few things which makes me believe Trumpism is a cult:
(1) You can't criticize Trump AT ALL. Anyone that criticizes him is the enemy.
(2) Dividing the world into us and them, this extremist good and evil narrative and that only Trump can save the world.
(3) The extraordinary persecution complex that Trump and many of his supporters have. Trump constantly is instilling in his supporters the idea that they are being horribly persecuted.

I have perused more official halmarks of cults and extreme Trumpism ticks most of the boxes. We can explore these in more detail if we want to go deeper here.

Does it mean that there aren't other political groups that also exhibit cultish behaviour? Of course not. However, Trumpism is several orders of magnitude larger and more influential than anything else in the US.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by MajorMitchell » Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:43 am

Foolish Ginge,
You were given 3 provocations,
1 you lost games to peregrine falcon, based in fact.
2 mocked as whinging child
3 a "nonsense provocation" a red herring, a trap for a weak mind and sensitive ego

And now you are behaving like a delicato woke, making ecagerated, innacurate, "he called me jewish" complaint, you bumbler ~race is your psychological weak spot, it's why you ignored the other 2 provocations and over reacted to the one that was a nonsense that you were too stupid and lazy to perceive as a nonsense "red herring" a trap.

All you had to do was google search "Dadaist" & have the intellect to see the psychological trap.
Stick to civilian life and a career as a grocer's clerk, you would perish in a theatre of combat imho.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Ginge86 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:09 pm

MajorMitchell wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:43 am
My eccentric esoteric little test of jibes started with a remark that referred to revent 1v1 webdip games between peregrine falcon and ginger, as some readers will know peregrine galcom and I still dispute his fiendish stealing of Liverpool from me in a webdip game, so for me to remark.upon a success by peregrine falcon is in and of itself significant.

The 2nd jibe was about childishness & diarrheoa

The 3rd started with the Dadaist cryptic clue.. what follows is anarchic nonsense, whimsy... look it up, the early 20th century dadaist art movement & fountain sculpture
The nonsense, a hint that I suspect a person might be f a certain ethnic or religious persuasion.
Not a statement person x is a YYY
The tiny bait at the end to entrap the weak mind and delicato ego
What would a chap who throws the term nazi about be sensitive to?

You have to toughen up sweetypie, you might be in danger of behavingbin a woke like manner running off to mum to whinge about wicked daffy old MM, or whining to the Almighty Mods
You literally insinuated that as I disagree with you I must be Jewish. If your going to say it, be man enough to own it. I am not upset, I am just not allowing someone to get away with a racist comment. You decided, as you had no real argument to make, to instead turn this into an argument about race. The usual tactic of the left. I am no longer willing to engage with you, without an apology but did feel the need to clear that up, encase anybody could not understand what I was referring too.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by MajorMitchell » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:43 am

My eccentric esoteric little test of jibes started with a remark that referred to revent 1v1 webdip games between peregrine falcon and ginger, as some readers will know peregrine galcom and I still dispute his fiendish stealing of Liverpool from me in a webdip game, so for me to remark.upon a success by peregrine falcon is in and of itself significant.

The 2nd jibe was about childishness & diarrheoa

The 3rd started with the Dadaist cryptic clue.. what follows is anarchic nonsense, whimsy... look it up, the early 20th century dadaist art movement & fountain sculpture
The nonsense, a hint that I suspect a person might be f a certain ethnic or religious persuasion.
Not a statement person x is a YYY
The tiny bait at the end to entrap the weak mind and delicato ego
What would a chap who throws the term nazi about be sensitive to?

You have to toughen up sweetypie, you might be in danger of behavingbin a woke like manner running off to mum to whinge about wicked daffy old MM, or whining to the Almighty Mods

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Fluminator » Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:35 pm

Also I'm done trolling for a bit. I'll never reach Ginge's levels. You can have a break from me Jamiet. (until next time)

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Fluminator » Thu Sep 08, 2022 7:34 pm

captainmeme wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 1:46 pm
Thread has been moved to the Politics forum.
But this is religion, not politics. Unless you think religion should be a part of politics?

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Jamiet99uk » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:20 pm

I confess to having absolutely no idea what MajorMitchell was on about there.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by Ginge86 » Thu Sep 08, 2022 4:10 pm

Not really, just sick of crazy lefties, spouting racist bollocks.
Funny how you went straight for race. Typical lefty, racist to the end.
You lefties spend all day criticising anyone who disagrees with you, calling them every name under the sun and then complain when someone fires back.
I am reporting the post above for its racist comment, I am sure nothing will happen though, as your racism wasn't directed towards the special groups.

Re: Why do Christians like the antichrist so much?

by MajorMitchell » Thu Sep 08, 2022 3:35 pm

Hey Jamiet99UK our ginger whinger has been getting flogged by Peregrine Falcon which may explain his childish angst, tis definitely a "delicato ego" with our ginger whinger
I think out little ginger whinger has just had a wonderful tantrum with a spectacular dummy spit, must be missng his wet nurse's teat?
Gosh, such tantrums remind me of the times when little Sebastian was cutting his first teeth and had a nasty dose of diarrhoea
What do you think our ginger whinger might say if he finds out I am a Dadaist and suspect that the little ginger whinger is a, well, I suppose if I said Hassidic Arabic chap that might be a diplomatic way of hinting towards a Hewbrewish heritage?

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