20 Questions - Game 248

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by JustAGuyNamedWill » Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:46 am

And with that, the 41st round of 20 questions in March ends

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Spartaculous » Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:38 am

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:56 am
So then I guess Guy Simonds.
Dammit, how do you DO that? It's like you can see into my SOUL!
This one was relatively easy. Once you cued us that we were likely looking for a Canadian, it was simple enough to look at everyone on this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Canadian_Army_generals_of_World_War_II
Exactly one of them fit the main criteria (born in or after 1900, born in England, no E in first name).

Not quite as much fun as Mark Sykes. I was very proud of that one (along with Alexander Butterfield). But I guess I do get credit for being the one to ask
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:34 pm
 Is this a real human being who was either born before January 1, 1950 or who lived in Canada for at least 5 years?
Also:
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:25 am
 I think what got us off track was the "died aged 70 or older" question (perfectly good question, to be clear). Once it became very unlikely that he was born after 1949, he wasn't any more likely to be Canadian than the average target. The WWII thing cemented this even more.
Yes, these are all very good points. I will add to it that sometimes, I think that the questioning goes off in certain directions (letters in names, age at death, etc.) that just don't help out too much, when really we should be focusing on what the person is famous for. (Something to keep in mind for the next round.)

Anyways, yes, another fun round. Thanks cdngooner!

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Hominidae » Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:25 am

I think what got us off track was the "died aged 70 or older" question (perfectly good question, to be clear). Once it became very unlikely that he was born after 1949, he wasn't any more likely to be Canadian than the average target. The WWII thing cemented this even more.

Great round!

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by cdngooner » Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:56 am

So then I guess Guy Simonds.
Dammit, how do you DO that? It's like you can see into my SOUL! Yes, when it was asked if he was "born before 1950, or spent more than 5 years in Canada," and I said, "Yes", I thought you would figure very quickly that he was Canadian. But you all seemed to veer away from that. Then, when the inevitable "born in Europe" question came, I thought I had you.

My intended clue, after Q20, was going to be he has something in common with several of my previous subjects. (of course Simonds was: one of Monty's favourite corps commanders; achieved fame in a country other than his country of birth; Canadian).

Lieutenant-General Guy Simonds led the 1 Cdn Div in the Sicily invasion, then I Cdn Corps in the Italian Campaign, then II Cdn Corps in Normandy, then First Cdn Army in the Scheldt Campaign. Considered the best Canadian general of all time, Monty continually gave II Cdn Corps the most important jobs (clearing Caen; taking the heights east of Caen; clearing the Scheldt; leading Operation Veritable.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Spartaculous » Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:48 pm

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:29 pm
 Hint: For the first few questions, I thought you were going to get this rather easily. Then you went astray.
So then I guess Guy Simonds.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by wintergreen » Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:37 pm

I'm not going to ask this yet before awaiting others' input on its merits as question 20.
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Served in the British Army?
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Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by cdngooner » Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:29 pm

Hint: For the first few questions, I thought you were going to get this rather easily. Then you went astray.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by cdngooner » Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:31 pm

Please clarify: In the answer to question 6, would an "e" count as an "E"?
Yes. There is neither an "E" or an "e" in this person's first full name.
when saying born in England, are we referring to specifically England, Great Britain, or the UK as a whole?
England means England.
I specified "what is currently England" because Wales was technically part of England until the 1960s.
This person was not born in Wales.
John Frederick Durnford-Slater
No.

Still one question left. I fear you are not going to get this one.

1,13. First language English.
2,7. Real dead human; born before 1930, and may have lived in Canada > 5 years.
3,10,16. Born in England.
4,5,8,15,17,19. Primarily known for fighting in WW2, somewhere in Europe.
6. No "E" or "e" in full first name.
9,14. Born 1900-1929.
11. Died aged 70 or older (1970-2024).
12. Not black.
18. Not a pilot (at least not a military pilot).

Not: Douglas Bader (free).
Capt Tom Moore (damo666).
Lord Louis Mountbatten (hominidae).
John Durnford-Slater (Aristocrat).

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Hominidae » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:40 pm

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:18 pm
kingofthepirates wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:16 pm
 when saying born in England, are we referring to specifically England, Great Britain, or the UK as a whole?
clarification, not a question
Unless QM says otherwise, I think it is commonly understood that “England” would exclude Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
Somehow my comment didn't go through. I specified "what is currently England" because Wales was technically part of England until the 1960s.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Hominidae » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:39 pm

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:18 pm
kingofthepirates wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:16 pm
 when saying born in England, are we referring to specifically England, Great Britain, or the UK as a whole?
clarification, not a question
Unless QM says otherwise, I think it is commonly understood that “England” would exclude Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Aristocrat » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:25 pm

Given we know relatively little, I will free guess a random badass: John Frederick Durnford-Slater

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Aristocrat » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:18 pm

kingofthepirates wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:16 pm
 when saying born in England, are we referring to specifically England, Great Britain, or the UK as a whole?
clarification, not a question
Unless QM says otherwise, I think it is commonly understood that “England” would exclude Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by kingofthepirates » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:16 pm

when saying born in England, are we referring to specifically England, Great Britain, or the UK as a whole?
clarification, not a question

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Hominidae » Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:02 pm

Diplomacy&Warfare wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:54 pm
 Please clarify: In the answer to question 6, would an "e" count as an "E"?
If no, free guess: Bernard Montgomery
I think the assumption is generally yes, and kind of E counts.

I'm less sure about what happens with non-Latin writing systems.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by DiplomacyandWarfare » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:55 pm

*re-reads the info so far and realizes they have to be born during or after 1900*
scratch the free-guess

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by DiplomacyandWarfare » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:54 pm

Please clarify: In the answer to question 6, would an "e" count as an "E"?
If no, free guess: Bernard Montgomery

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by cdngooner » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:16 pm

Most famous for fighting in Europe?
Yes, but to be clear I am answering that literally. If you meant "Northwest Europe" I didn't take it that way. This answer still includes Northwest Europe; Norway; Sicily/Italy; Greece/Crete/Dodecanese; the Eastern Front; or commando/special operations.

One more question.

1,13. First language English.
2,7. Real dead human; born before 1930, and may have lived in Canada > 5 years.
3,10,16. Born in England.
4,5,8,15,17,19. Primarily known for fighting in WW2, somewhere in Europe.
6. No "E" in full first name.
9,14. Born 1900-1929.
11. Died aged 70 or older (1970-2024).
12. Not black.
18. Not a pilot (at least not a military pilot).

Not: Douglas Bader (free).
Capt Tom Moore (damo666).
Lord Louis Mountbatten (hominidae).

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by kingofthepirates » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:11 pm

Most famous for fighting in Europe?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by cdngooner » Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:55 pm

Free guess: Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma
Good guess. One of my favourite figures of WW2. But not him.

So far you've only narrowed it down to perhaps a million English-born soldiers or sailors (or possibly non-pilot airmen). Consider questions on what formations or what campaigns he fought in.

1,13. First language English.
2,7. Real dead human; born before 1930, and may have lived in Canada > 5 years.
3,10,16. Born in England.
4,5,8,15,17. Primarily known for fighting in WW2.
6. No "E" in full first name.
9,14. Born 1900-1929.
11. Died aged 70 or older (1970-2024).
12. Not black.
18. Not a pilot (at least not a military pilot).

Not: Douglas Bader (free).
Capt Tom Moore (damo666).
Lord Louis Mountbatten (hominidae).

Re: 20 Questions - Game 248

by Hominidae » Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:51 pm

Free guess: Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma

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