Twenty questions, round 273

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Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Hominidae » Wed May 01, 2024 9:18 am

I think inventing a toy falls into the category of arts, regardless of other biographical details.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Aristocrat » Wed May 01, 2024 4:28 am

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 2:40 am
Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 2:11 am
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 2:01 am

That's not a fair comparison to make. Hitler was not a professor at an art institute.
And Rubik wasn’t famous for being a professor.
A while back, I did a round with John Bardeen as the target. He was a professor of physics and engineering; I frequently walk by plaques in his honor. He is most notable for co-inventing the transistor, which he did in the course of his usual research activities as a professor.

Ernő Rubik invented his eponymous Cube as part of his activities as a professor. From Wikipedia: "Starting with blocks of wood and rubber bands, Rubik set out to create a structure that would allow the individual pieces to move without the whole structure falling apart." This is clearly in the vein of his academic interests in architecture and interior design.

It seems to me that Bardeen and Rubik have very similar claims to fame: they are both famous for inventing something in the course of their work as professors. And, in Rubik's case, he was specifically a professor of art. That is why I placed his invention in the "arts" category.

I would definitely have also answered "yes" to a similar question about the sciences. My comment before my answer was definitely intended to encourage more questions not just in the arts bucket; Wattsthematter deserves a lot of credit for asking the invention question.

Many other artists have created art inspired by or incorporating Rubik's Cubes (see, for instance, a mosaic whose medium is 4,242 cubes): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%27s_Cube#Exhibits_and_art
I will say I am not sure I entirely agree with the answer as given in the round, but I do see the point and appreciate the thoughtful and mature response.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Spartaculous » Wed May 01, 2024 2:40 am

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 2:11 am
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 2:01 am
Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:55 am
 Hitler wanted to be an artist, too, but his claim to fame isn’t related to the arts.
That's not a fair comparison to make. Hitler was not a professor at an art institute.
And Rubik wasn’t famous for being a professor.
A while back, I did a round with John Bardeen as the target. He was a professor of physics and engineering; I frequently walk by plaques in his honor. He is most notable for co-inventing the transistor, which he did in the course of his usual research activities as a professor.

Ernő Rubik invented his eponymous Cube as part of his activities as a professor. From Wikipedia: "Starting with blocks of wood and rubber bands, Rubik set out to create a structure that would allow the individual pieces to move without the whole structure falling apart." This is clearly in the vein of his academic interests in architecture and interior design.

It seems to me that Bardeen and Rubik have very similar claims to fame: they are both famous for inventing something in the course of their work as professors. And, in Rubik's case, he was specifically a professor of art. That is why I placed his invention in the "arts" category.

I would definitely have also answered "yes" to a similar question about the sciences. My comment before my answer was definitely intended to encourage more questions not just in the arts bucket; Wattsthematter deserves a lot of credit for asking the invention question.

Many other artists have created art inspired by or incorporating Rubik's Cubes (see, for instance, a mosaic whose medium is 4,242 cubes): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik%27s_Cube#Exhibits_and_art

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Aristocrat » Wed May 01, 2024 2:20 am

cdngooner wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 2:14 am
 Jesus people, stop whining and blaming the QM because you weren't able to read the clues and answer the question. If the answer made it difficult for you, GOOD. THAT'S THE GAME. Someone else with a more creative mind was able to put the pieces together and get it right. What ever happened to losing gracefully.
You’re welcome to respond as an adult or not at all. Trolling is not a good look for you.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by cdngooner » Wed May 01, 2024 2:14 am

Jesus people, stop whining and blaming the QM because you weren't able to read the clues and answer the question. If the answer made it difficult for you, GOOD. THAT'S THE GAME. Someone else with a more creative mind was able to put the pieces together and get it right. What ever happened to losing gracefully.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Aristocrat » Wed May 01, 2024 2:11 am

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 2:01 am
Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:55 am
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:49 am

Rubik's university studies were initially in sculpture, before moving into architecture and interior design. He was a faculty member at the Budapest College of Applied Arts in the 1970s when he invented his "Magic Cube". I think that he would have considered himself an artist, and his cube invention grew out of his artistic endeavors. It was a close call, admittedly; that's why my answer came with a bit of a disclaimer.
Hitler wanted to be an artist, too, but his claim to fame isn’t related to the arts.
That's not a fair comparison to make. Hitler was not a professor at an art institute.
And Rubik wasn’t famous for being a professor.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Spartaculous » Wed May 01, 2024 2:01 am

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:55 am
Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:49 am
Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:27 am
 How is a toymaker famous for their involvement in the arts, as defined in previous games
Rubik's university studies were initially in sculpture, before moving into architecture and interior design. He was a faculty member at the Budapest College of Applied Arts in the 1970s when he invented his "Magic Cube". I think that he would have considered himself an artist, and his cube invention grew out of his artistic endeavors. It was a close call, admittedly; that's why my answer came with a bit of a disclaimer.
Hitler wanted to be an artist, too, but his claim to fame isn’t related to the arts.
That's not a fair comparison to make. Hitler was not a professor at an art institute.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Aristocrat » Wed May 01, 2024 1:55 am

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:49 am
Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:27 am
 How is a toymaker famous for their involvement in the arts, as defined in previous games
Rubik's university studies were initially in sculpture, before moving into architecture and interior design. He was a faculty member at the Budapest College of Applied Arts in the 1970s when he invented his "Magic Cube". I think that he would have considered himself an artist, and his cube invention grew out of his artistic endeavors. It was a close call, admittedly; that's why my answer came with a bit of a disclaimer.
Hitler wanted to be an artist, too, but his claim to fame isn’t related to the arts.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Spartaculous » Wed May 01, 2024 1:51 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:12 am
 That's the second accomplished living Hungarian I've correctly guessed in one of your rounds.
Georgy Marx:
The universe is vast, containing myriads of stars ... likely to have planets circling around them. ... The simplest living things will multiply, evolve by natural selection and become more complicated till eventually active, thinking creatures will emerge. ... Yearning for fresh worlds ... they should spread out all over the Galaxy. These highly exceptional and talented people could hardly overlook such a beautiful place as our Earth. – "And so," Fermi came to his overwhelming question, "if all this has been happening, they should have arrived here by now, so where are they?" – It was Leo Szilard, a man with an impish sense of humor, who supplied the perfect reply to the Fermi Paradox: "They are among us," he said, "but they call themselves Hungarians."

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Spartaculous » Wed May 01, 2024 1:49 am

Aristocrat wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:27 am
 How is a toymaker famous for their involvement in the arts, as defined in previous games
Rubik's university studies were initially in sculpture, before moving into architecture and interior design. He was a faculty member at the Budapest College of Applied Arts in the 1970s when he invented his "Magic Cube". I think that he would have considered himself an artist, and his cube invention grew out of his artistic endeavors. It was a close call, admittedly; that's why my answer came with a bit of a disclaimer.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Aristocrat » Wed May 01, 2024 1:27 am

How is a toymaker famous for their involvement in the arts, as defined in previous games

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Hominidae » Wed May 01, 2024 1:12 am

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:07 am
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:04 am
 If "no" to DarthPorg's question, free guess: Ernő Rubik
Almost missed this one. It's a good thing I didn't, because Rubik is correct!
That's the second accomplished living Hungarian I've correctly guessed in one of your rounds. The only reason I found Faggin first is because I was going through the List of Inventors Wikipedia page alphabetically.

Very good pick. New thread will be up relatively soon!

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Spartaculous » Wed May 01, 2024 1:07 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 1:04 am
 If "no" to DarthPorg's question, free guess: Ernő Rubik
Almost missed this one. It's a good thing I didn't, because Rubik is correct!

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Spartaculous » Wed May 01, 2024 1:06 am

DarthPorg36 wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:20 pm
 Famous for inventing something military, electrical, or computer - related; or a teacher?
DarthPorg36 wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 12:01 am
 Considering that you literally said he's an inventor, scratch the teacher part of the question
So, I'm assuming that the question is now "Famous for inventing something military, electrical, or computer - related?".

No.
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 12:55 am
Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 12:55 am
 Free guess: Federico Faggin
Actually, make this conditional on a "yes" to DarthPorg's question.
Obviously, this doesn't count, but I did just look up Faggin, and he has quite the résumé (designed the first commercial microprocessor, and then went on to start a company that developed the first touchpads and touchscreens).

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Hominidae » Wed May 01, 2024 1:04 am

If "no" to DarthPorg's question, free guess: Ernő Rubik

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Hominidae » Wed May 01, 2024 12:55 am

Hominidae wrote: ↑
Wed May 01, 2024 12:55 am
 Free guess: Federico Faggin
Actually, make this conditional on a "yes" to DarthPorg's question.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Hominidae » Wed May 01, 2024 12:55 am

Free guess: Federico Faggin

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by DarthPorg36 » Wed May 01, 2024 12:01 am

Spartaculous wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:33 pm
DarthPorg36 wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:20 pm
 Famous for inventing something military, electrical, or computer - related; or a teacher?
Do you want to rephrase your question? See my previous question for comments about his teaching.
Ok yeah fair I just thought maybe he was still a "teacher" in your mind too and wanted to keep that open.

Considering that you literally said he's an inventor, scratch the teacher part of the question

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by Spartaculous » Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:33 pm

DarthPorg36 wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:20 pm
 Famous for inventing something military, electrical, or computer - related; or a teacher?
Do you want to rephrase your question? See my previous question for comments about his teaching.

Re: Twenty questions, round 273

by DarthPorg36 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:20 pm

Famous for inventing something military, electrical, or computer - related; or a teacher?

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