20 Questions - Game 272

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Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Spartaculous » Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:17 pm

cdngooner wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:50 pm
gazumped
Got to learn a new word today. Thanks!

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by cdngooner » Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:08 pm

None of the alternatives were born in the western half of Canada
Good point. Didn't even think about that.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by JECE » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:58 pm

Spartaculous wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:41 pm
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:28 pm
Does he appear on the List of Military Figures section in Lists of Canadians on Wikipedia?
Yes.

Hints: He was neither a general nor an admiral. He was in the Canadian army in WWI but achieved his fame elsewhere.
I mean, this gives it away. There's only one person who checks all of the boxes once you say this.
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:50 pm
Again, I don't know how you do it, Spartaculous. The list of Canadian Military Figures still had many other options that fit all criteria: Canada's top WWI ace Billy Bishop not least among them (he was an Air Marshal, not a general or admiral). Also Roy Brown (who shot down the Red Baron), Darth Porg's guess John McRae (poet of "In Flanders Fields") and several other spies and VC winners.
Spartaculous is right, though. Once you eliminate people who were born or died in the wrong century or were born in Eastern Canada or England you are left with just a small handful of individuals from that list. Remove generals, those who didn't serve in WWI, those only famous for WWI and non-white folk and you only have one potential candidate left.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Aristocrat » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:57 pm

None of the alternatives were born in the western half of Canada

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by cdngooner » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:50 pm

Was he a rather intrepid sort of chap?
Yes. And to prevent you getting gazumped, I'll give it to you. WILLIAM STEPHENSON, code name Intrepid, subject of the book and TV series "A Man Called Intrepid" and the alleged inspiration for James Bond (Ian Fleming was one of his students). Stephenson was Churchill's most trusted spy at the start of the war and was assigned to Washington where he became Roosevelt's advisor too. Among other things he managed Camp X, a base in Ontario where Britain's and Canada's spies were trained.

Again, I don't know how you do it, Spartaculous. The list of Canadian Military Figures still had many other options that fit all criteria: Canada's top WWI ace Billy Bishop not least among them (he was an Air Marshal, not a general or admiral). Also Roy Brown (who shot down the Red Baron), Darth Porg's guess John McRae (poet of "In Flanders Fields") and several other spies and VC winners.

Well done all. Good game.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by JECE » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:43 pm

Spartaculous seems to have narrowed it down to William Stephenson, so I'll guess Alan Arnett McLeod, who was in the Canadian army during the Great War but famous for his role in the British army and British air force. He died much too young to be appointed to anything, though.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by DarthPorg36 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:25 pm

Free Guess: John McCrae, poet of "In Flanders' Fields"

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Spartaculous » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:11 pm

Was he a rather intrepid sort of chap?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by cdngooner » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:02 pm

I mean, this gives it away. There's only one person who checks all of the boxes once you say this.
I don't believe that is true. But give it your best shot.
Lawrence Moore Cosgrave?
No, but he's a very interesting person. When it came time for the surrender, someone noticed at the last minute that there was no one to take the surrender for Canada. Cosgrave was the military attache in Sydney, the closest officer and available. So he signed right among McArthur and Nimitz. Only he didn't have his glasses and signed on the wrong line. When the next official came to sign, he had to sign on the next line down, and so on. The entire Japanese surrender document bears this error.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Jamiet99uk » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:58 pm

Lawrence Moore Cosgrave?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Spartaculous » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:41 pm

cdngooner wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:28 pm
Does he appear on the List of Military Figures section in Lists of Canadians on Wikipedia?
Yes.

Hints: He was neither a general nor an admiral. He was in the Canadian army in WWI but achieved his fame elsewhere.
I mean, this gives it away. There's only one person who checks all of the boxes once you say this.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by cdngooner » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:28 pm

Does he appear on the List of Military Figures section in Lists of Canadians on Wikipedia?
Yes.
Did this person fight in World War 2?
Scratched (twice).
In that case, free guess: General Arthur Currie?
No.
My free guess: Andrew McNaughton.
No.
Free guess: Lieutenant General Eedson Louis Millard "Tommy" Burns
No.

That's 19. Hints: He was neither a general nor an admiral. He was in the Canadian army in WWI but achieved his fame elsewhere.

1,5. Real dead white male human.
2,10. Born 1800-1900.
9,11,14,16,18. Born in the western half of Canada.
7. Died 1800-1999.
4. Native speaker of Indo-European language.
6,15. Primarily known for a military role (defined broadly); may also be famous for politics, sports, or religion (all defined broadly).
19. Appears on the Wikipedia list: List of Canadians / Military Figures.
8,12,17. Best known for his work in a governmental office to which he was appointed; but not his country's Supreme Court; and not an elected official.
3,13. Not primarily known as inventor, composer, visual artist, writer, or activist.

Not:
General Sir Arthur Currie
General Andrew McNaughton
Lieutenant General ELM Burns.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Wattsthematter » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:19 pm

Free guess: Lieutenant General Eedson Louis Millard "Tommy" Burns

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Spartaculous » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:10 pm

My free guess: Andrew McNaughton.

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by DreamTrawler » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:08 pm

Oh, we can make one before the 20 questions are up. In that case, free guess: General Arthur Currie?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Spartaculous » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:08 pm

DreamTrawler wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:02 pm
how do free guesses work?
Every player gets one free guess that you can use at any point before Q20 is answered. (Q19 was just asked.)

So feel free to make your guess right now, if you have a good idea! (You can make it conditional on the answer to Q19. Example: "If yes to Q19, then ... ".)

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by DreamTrawler » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:02 pm

how do free guesses work?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Wattsthematter » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:52 pm

Wattsthematter wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:51 pm
cdngooner wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:27 pm
Why is that a wasted question? All you know about his time period so far is he could have been involved in anything from the Napoleonic Wars (OK maybe just a bit young for that, but close) to the Cold War.
Based on the fact that you're asking, it probably is relevant. But this person would be a minimum of 40 years old at the start of WWII, and that's only if they were born at the very end of this range. I'll ask since you pointed it out.

Did this person fight in World War 2?
Scratch again, this would be Q20

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by Wattsthematter » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:51 pm

cdngooner wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:27 pm
Why is that a wasted question? All you know about his time period so far is he could have been involved in anything from the Napoleonic Wars (OK maybe just a bit young for that, but close) to the Cold War.
Based on the fact that you're asking, it probably is relevant. But this person would be a minimum of 40 years old at the start of WWII, and that's only if they were born at the very end of this range. I'll ask since you pointed it out.

Did this person fight in World War 2?

Re: 20 Questions - Game 272

by damo666 » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:49 pm

Does he appear on the List of Military Figures section in Lists of Canadians on Wikipedia?

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