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by Claesar » Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:28 am
bozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:32 am I have seen this discrepancy explained in terms of "real word" implications, which I think makes sense. In the case being discussed, if the army in Bre. is busy trying to convoy to Pic., it is not available to defend against an attack from Pic. In the other case, a convoyed army can't help defend against an attack on a fleet convoying it, because the fleet can't simultaneously defend against an attack and convoy an army. In other words, I think the adjudications are meant to not allow any unit to perform 2 tasks simultaneously, which is the idea behind units not being able to cut support on attacks against them.
by bozotheclown » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:32 am
RoganJosh wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:16 am Ienpw_III wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:15 am 13. Support is cut if the unit giving support is attacked from any province except the one where support is being given. The issue lies in the phrase "attacked from." Does the attack come from the land or does the attack come from the sea? That's the ambiguity. Reading this again, the situation is actually more inconsistent than what I remembered. Right, if the attack would count as coming both from the sea and form land, then the supporting unit would be attacked both from the sea and from the land. So its support would be cut, according to Cutting Support rule. So what's really going on is that, if a convoyed army is attacking a fleet supporting an attack on one of the convoying fleets, then it is counted as if the army is coming only from the sea. But if a convoyed army is attacking a unit supporting an attack on its original province, then it is counted as if the army is coming only from its original province.
Ienpw_III wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:15 am 13. Support is cut if the unit giving support is attacked from any province except the one where support is being given.
by RoganJosh » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:16 am
by Ienpw_III » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:15 am
by dank57 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:31 pm
by RoganJosh » Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:32 pm
by dank57 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:39 am
by dank57 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:45 am
by RoganJosh » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:19 am
by RoganJosh » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:13 am
A_Tin_Can wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:01 am I think a better way to restate it is "for the purposes of cutting support, convoyed attacks are considered to come from the source province and all fleets in the convoy". (But even that isn't right, because you *can* cut support with a convoy if you still have another valid convoy route)
by A_Tin_Can » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:10 am
Backstabbr doesn't even allow the option of moving by convoy,
by RoganJosh » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:09 am
by A_Tin_Can » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:01 am
the attack in this convoy is considered to come from Eng
A Convoyed Attack Doesn’t Cut Certain Supports A convoyed Army doesn’t cut the support of a unit supporting an attack against one of the Fleets necessary for the Army to convoy
by dank57 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:48 am
by dank57 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:15 am
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