M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

i would prefer to kill bunny because i'm more confident and he's admitted he's trying to piss me off but if we kill balki we kill balki

[Bonatogether]

Well, Bunny and me went back and forth already. Balki disappeared like a ghost and you aren't solving outside bunny soooo

yeah total snoozefest

i've already argued that balki is scum and i've believed it since day 1

Who would be the third then?

will

[Bonatogether]

does anyone read my posts where i have ideas? i've been saying this same damn thing the whole fucking game

[BunnyGo]

does anyone read my posts where i have ideas? i've been saying this same damn thing the whole fucking game

No...you haven't

[Krr1ss]

does anyone read my posts where i have ideas? i've been saying this same damn thing the whole fucking game

Tbf, I skipped half of it

[Bonatogether]

does anyone read my posts where i have ideas? i've been saying this same damn thing the whole fucking game

No...you haven't

bunny, let's see the receipts:

lol i really hope you're being serious bc i'll do it if you are

Only if you scumread them

i scumread whoever the third mouse is actually

this is before will was outed but after i had placed my shot on who i thought the third mouse was.

willing to bet that this means yavu is scum

this was after chomps claimed will was mafia mouse

any odd flips would be known. regardless, going ride or die on someone sets up a firm antipair in concept. this throws off pair work, so even without knowlesge if flips bussing still makes sense, especially if the person doesn't look likely to die

kk.

So you think I bussed Just.

Assuming I'm town, do you think anyone else is a potential busser?

Do you think Chomps may be playing deep threat here both bussing Just AND being completely honest with us?

Except for him and us, the other Just voters are the mice.

i believe just is scum because of his actions on d1. chomps' claims are not necessarily true although they accord with what i see, and are self-resolving after enough time. i don't believe you are town and don't have reason to consider that i'm wrong

here i am making the SAME FUCKING CLAIM THAT I AM NOW

Bona, if the intention of Bunny, Yav and Will's plan was to get Will and Mimi killed, why didn't they NK Mimi last night?

you're not understanding me

concept: yavu scum, will scum, mimi town. all mice

if two mice die, then the third gets to kill another

if one mouse kamikazes into another instantly, they can likely force both dying in order to get the third the poison. yavu does this onto mimi, but it goes wrong and the third mouse is outed and killed, and revealed to be scum

SAYING IT AGAIN

that was literally me saying bing bing bong and nothing else

Also "it's a role claim"

You also said that I was going to get drummed, right before the shot rang out and you got excited because you thought it hit.

nope, i submitted the shot considerably before the third mouse was outed and so by that time i knew it missed

this is the SAME INFO that i gave at the top of this post. i have been CONSISTENT THIS WHOLE FUCKING TIME

Yavu is beyond doubt as town, you mean?

This is the opposite of what Bona thinks.

The two of us have VERY different views of this game.

He scums you, me, yavu

I towncore all those and him.

Gonna make endgame hard if he and I are kept alive.

bunny find a damn post where i scumread jamie

you're doing this bit where you towncore me, but oh, you can't get to lylo with me, but you're in towncore and out of poe (by your own claims, and no one elses), so you're setting up to kill me. it's so obvious

this is my called shot that bunny would be scumreading me in lylo, from NIGHT TWO

[Bonatogether]

@chris we've not played before, and meta as a reason to convince another person is fake (as opposed to just using it to base a vibe read), even more so at lylo, but bunny's scum MO is to aggressively bullshit, spam the thread, and argue with people until he gets what he wants. so bunny posts more words than me - so what? see past the bullshit and look at the pattern here

[Balki Bartokomous]

@BunnyGo, why did you suspect Will on Day1?

[BunnyGo]

Considering Bofa and I actually agree on Balki being the best vote, it's amazing neither of us GAF anymore.

Here Bofa:

##vote Balki

Closing my tabs and gone.

Will not be back for at least 48 hours because shabbat is coming.

See you next game one way or the other!

[Bonatogether]

the over/under line on when he returns is 10 hours, jsyk

[Balki Bartokomous]

No. If the wagons stay this way, I’ll jump to D&W.

Might even intentionally cause a tie!

mega fake

Incorrect

So…how do you feel being the one other person besides me voting Just all day (excepting Mimi’s joke bus vote)?

This post from BunnyGo just strikes me as scum seeking credit for bussing their partner during a time when they didn't really think their partner would go over.

I don't see good reasons for the JustaGutNamedWill vote, but then I see a lot of performance around switching the vote, which I'll post in a minute. Reading Bunny's posts together on Day 1, it feels like a guy who is trying to lay a false trail for us to follow.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Here are the posts I have in mind as BunnyGo trying to lay this false trail:

a bit worried that will hasn't posted in a day especially given how good he often is at solving if he's town and the fact that (possibly coincidentally) his absence is reminiscent of his scum game in 1035

You did start off the game by bussing him

But seriously, I'm happy moving to D&W also, but will stay on Just for a bit.

I'm 100% staying if it's leading. Only leaving if it isn't

so you plan to hop to the leading wagon?

No. If the wagons stay this way, I’ll jump to D&W.

Might even intentionally cause a tie!

##vote bunnygo

bunny is condescending as both town and scum but i think he's scum

Well now the Just wagon has really evaporated. That’s rude.

##vote diploma cyan dwarf are witches

oh big

##vote will

##vote just

Yay Mimi!

BunnyGo had not done a serious job of trying to persuade anyone that JustaGuyNamedWill was a Wolf, he was just camping out on that vote. And he made this series of posts which all said something to the effect of "GUYS, I AM SERIOUS ABOUT THIS VOTE AND THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO BE, LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT WHO I AM VOTING FOR." Then he left the wagon. Then when Mimi and Bona voted Will, BunnyGo really had no choice but to hop back on.

Because of all the "GUYS, I"M SERIOUS" posts BunnyGo had just made, Scum!Bunny would have felt absolutely compelled to jump back on.

I feel like Scum!Bunny/Scum!Will is very possible, and it is my leading theory after reading Day 1.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I think coven hits me most of the time with a grave digger not in their team and me as the deciding vote

I like this post from Chomps and his quick claim. Just feels decisive in a way that comes from a villager more than a wolf, in my experience.

[Balki Bartokomous]

With a scum mouse, I think a sniper missing is more towny since an early kill on someone like yaru would be townread and unluck will earlier imo, so a bit of cred for the sniper

still what was that day 1 shot

Hard agree.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Coven Mouse flip, i am the gravedigger

Gottem!

Or are you lying? Why would you just claim this and not hide for longer?

Ah, BunnyGo is such a wolf!

Wolfy wolfy wolf wolf.

[Balki Bartokomous]

How about the following theory. Mimi and Will were both scum and this was planned. Mimi bussed Will very early with foreshadowing "bussing btw". When I voted for Mimi, she never reacted bad to me, instead handled things well into a Will wagon. Her early foreshadowing might be an indicator of this. Also mimi was too buddying the whole day to me. Which is scummier than towny. Did anyone else have the vibe of buddying I'm talking about?

It would be a pretty outrageous move to announce you are bussing your witch partner while you are actually bussing your witch partner. MAD respect to Mimi if she did that but if she did, I'm outclassed here, because I can't really believe it.

And I can't really imagine that you seriously believe it either.

This. Bussing day 1 of a no flip, and bussing one of the top scum deep threats would be an impressively crazy play.

Here Bunny is again. Subtext of this statement is: guys -- look what I did? Somebody look at my Day 1 vote and read me off it!

[Balki Bartokomous]

Coven Mouse flip, i am the gravedigger

my main guess here is that yavuzovic is also mafia, and is a useful role like sniper, and will was concerned that the judge might have chosen yavuzovic
could be someone else too
(checks the other significant wagons)
bunny and myself
so bunny and yavuzovic are likely scum (and me... ugh)

So I bussed Just all day?

And why are you so quick to believe Chomps’ claim?

Here it is again, less subtext and more text.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I think coven hits me most of the time with a grave digger not in their team and me as the deciding vote

I don’t know why.

If you’re town!gravedigger none of us knew. And none of us knew Just was scum. So you (and the rest of us pushing Just) get no credit.

See it from a scum perspective, they don't have gravedigger on the team, they know the info will get out sometime, and I was the deciding vote for jumping over the other wagon and chopping Will, they don't know I am the gravedigger but they know I would definitely be town cleared by one unless it was the unlikely w/w wagons and I was exactly their third

Chomps looking super town to me on re-read.

[Bonatogether]

thanks balki - impressive bussing

[Balki Bartokomous]

hi i'm back probably through eod

##vote JustAGuyNamedWill; he has expressed only a few opinons; he thinks bunny is different and me chomps and yavuz are towny. if anybody is hiding behind mech talk as has been posited it is likely him. also as i said i just don't like his absence

(also i was pushing dw half because i thought he was posting weird and half because i wanted to see how will would react since they tend to have opinions about each other)

Here begins a push on Will.

There were already 2 votes on Just…pay attention!

BunnyGo is Sooo angry that Jamiet isn't giving Bunny insta-bus credit for voting for Will for most of Day 1. But what Jamiet saw, and what BunnyGo would admit if he were Town, is that BunnyGo did not push the Will wagon on Day 1, he simply camped there and tried to draw attention to the fact that his vote was there, while loudly signaling that he was going to leave the wagon due to lack of interest even though allegedly deep in his heart he wanted to stay there.

Then the interest in Will came, and BunnyGo had no choice.

But he seems awfully sad that he wasn't getting credit as driving the Will chop. He seems to be pretty sure that the Chomps claim is real and Will was scum.