M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

Hebbo.

It looks like I have some catching up to do.

Are the mice declaring or something? Why would that be happening....

(Starts reading)

They don’t have a chat and it only takes one to decide to.

Yavu named Mimi as the other mouse he found most scummy.

Dano and Butter declared yavu scummier for doing this.

I think both are towny, and that yavu goofed on a reasonable gambit.

This post looks wolfy to me from Bunny. You've got two town mice essentially stuck in a Thunderdome, and Bunny is sitting back and calling them both towny, which is an easy thing to do from a scum point of view. I think Town!Bunny feels more suspicious and less certain in the "I think both are towny" declaration.

i mark this as distancing

[Balki Bartokomous]

Hebbo.

It looks like I have some catching up to do.

Are the mice declaring or something? Why would that be happening....

(Starts reading)

They don’t have a chat and it only takes one to decide to.

Yavu named Mimi as the other mouse he found most scummy.

Dano and Butter declared yavu scummier for doing this.

I think both are towny, and that yavu goofed on a reasonable gambit.

hm overall bunny's been relatively towny imo and that outweighs this but this post gives off weird vibes. idk exactly what it is but it feels off

Mimi gets me. Pretty sure she's Town

[Balki Bartokomous]

we're at 3-2 if glomb is town (which i believe) and 4-1 if glomb was scum (highly highly unlikely)

Why do you think it is highly likely that glomb was town?

the push on them made no sense and they seemed earnestly towny. i'm ok being wrong about this because it means we have a bonus extra kill

Okay. I haven't read any of Day 2 yet. I'll have that in mind.

[Balki Bartokomous]

world where chomps is scum doesn't make a ton of sense

Why?

it would mean on d2, every scum member (assuming bongo is scum) voted to save glomb

Why are you assuming bongo is scum in this world? Or is that just a read that you feel conviction on?

[Bonatogether]

Why?

it would mean on d2, every scum member (assuming bongo is scum) voted to save glomb

Why are you assuming bongo is scum in this world? Or is that just a read that you feel conviction on?

i'm a visionary in the literal sense of the word

[Balki Bartokomous]

i mark this as distancing

Why?

I voted Bongo as my only vote in the game, so I've certainly "distanced."

Is there some reason it looks more like distancing and less like a sincere read?

[Balki Bartokomous]

it would mean on d2, every scum member (assuming bongo is scum) voted to save glomb

Why are you assuming bongo is scum in this world? Or is that just a read that you feel conviction on?

i'm a visionary in the literal sense of the word

No I'd actually like you to answer my question.

[Bonatogether]

Why are you assuming bongo is scum in this world? Or is that just a read that you feel conviction on?

i'm a visionary in the literal sense of the word

No I'd actually like you to answer my question.

he's fake townreading me, but early on i called that he was making a slow pivot to set up killing me and it's been true

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

if balki is scum, and town kills him:
-> if only he is scum, gg
-> else, we have a 2v1 standard lylo

if balki is scum, and town kills someone else:
-> if we get a second scum, it's 3 town vs 1 scum with scum!balki getting two kills. gg
-> if we vote out town, it's 2 town vs 2 scum with two nks. gg

if balki is town and town kills a town:
-> it's 2 town vs 2 scum (unless you want to bet glomb was scum), gg

if balki is town and town kills a scum:
-> it's 3 town vs 1 scum, with both scum and town getting an effective nk. if town!balki using the poison prevents dk usage and it's over one way or another

if we are in a world with two scum, one of whom is balki, we must kill balki

If we are in a world with two scum, we have to kill scum regardless, right?

Aren't we at 3-2?

also technically poison is executed at the middle of the day
so in a 2v1 with one town poisoned the mafia can still just be end-hammered before the halfway point

[Bonatogether]

if balki is scum, and town kills him:
-> if only he is scum, gg
-> else, we have a 2v1 standard lylo

if balki is scum, and town kills someone else:
-> if we get a second scum, it's 3 town vs 1 scum with scum!balki getting two kills. gg
-> if we vote out town, it's 2 town vs 2 scum with two nks. gg

if balki is town and town kills a town:
-> it's 2 town vs 2 scum (unless you want to bet glomb was scum), gg

if balki is town and town kills a scum:
-> it's 3 town vs 1 scum, with both scum and town getting an effective nk. if town!balki using the poison prevents dk usage and it's over one way or another

if we are in a world with two scum, one of whom is balki, we must kill balki

If we are in a world with two scum, we have to kill scum regardless, right?

Aren't we at 3-2?

also technically poison is executed at the middle of the day
so in a 2v1 with one town poisoned the mafia can still just be end-hammered before the halfway point

##GM call: does a poisoned's player's vote count if the day is hammered before they die?

[brainbomb]

Poison is submitted as a night action
If a last mouse submits a poison at night and then is nightkilled
The poison would still go through and adjudicate mid day or at a time of hammer

Poisoning cannot be circumvented by hammering a day early

A poisoned players vote still counts

[Bonatogether]

ok then in that case we can kill bunny if we hammer tomorrow. makes this simpler

##vote bunny

[Bonatogether]

Poison is submitted as a night action
If a last mouse submits a poison at night and then is nightkilled
The poison would still go through and adjudicate mid day or at a time of hammer

Poisoning cannot be circumvented by hammering a day early

A poisoned players vote still counts

just to be extremely sure: only up until they are killed by the poison? ie, no zombie vote?

[Bonatogether]

bungar and chris are gone

[brainbomb]

Poison is submitted as a night action
If a last mouse submits a poison at night and then is nightkilled
The poison would still go through and adjudicate mid day or at a time of hammer

Poisoning cannot be circumvented by hammering a day early

A poisoned players vote still counts

just to be extremely sure: only up until they are killed by the poison? ie, no zombie vote?

Their vote doesnt count if they are dead

[Bonatogether]

A poisoned players vote still counts

just to be extremely sure: only up until they are killed by the poison? ie, no zombie vote?

Their vote doesnt count if they are dead

but if a day was hammered in the first 24 hours, a poisoned player's vote would still count?

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

so I think what the gm is explaining means in practice that a poisoned player's vote counts if and only if the day gets end-hammered before they die. Their vote does count towards that end-hammering
practically, in a 2v1 where a town is poisoned town can still win if the last maf is hammered before poison, while in a 2v1 where the maf is poisoned we lose if we hammer a town and win if we hammer a scum or wait for poison to trigger

[Bonatogether]

so I think what the gm is explaining means in practice that a poisoned player's vote counts if and only if the day gets end-hammered before they die. Their vote does count towards that end-hammering
practically, in a 2v1 where a town is poisoned town can still win if the last maf is hammered before poison, while in a 2v1 where the maf is poisoned we lose if we hammer a town and win if we hammer a scum or wait for poison to trigger

are we ready to rip on bunny

[brainbomb]

Vote Tally 4.0

Beyond the moor was the old estate house. Never used. A wind storm collapsed the roof during the dark spring. A crow always kept vigil over the building. But now even crows do not grace this cursed place.

BunnyGo (2) DiplomacyandWarfare Bonatogether

Non-votes
BunnyGo
Krr1ss
Balki Bartokomous

Bunny was scheduled to die

Much time remains

[Balki Bartokomous]

It’s game time, friends! I hope we can find other things to talk about beyond the poison mechanic.