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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2021 Post by BunnyGo » Wed May 14, 2025 9:44 pm

miminena wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 9:21 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 9:18 pm
Krr1ss wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 9:07 pm
Tbh, I think that this game is solved depending on if both Chomps and Bunny can be scum or not. As long as we determine that correctly we probably win. Tho w!Bunny can lie but he is probably not incentivised?
Do you think scum!mimi opens with a “bus” of a scum player with a joke post like that?

I don’t think so.

Also, as this last day was TvT there was no actual drama. And only mimi felt invested.

So she’s looking good…which she already was. But good to reconsider.
how is town casing me relevant to the quoted post?
Was rereading while quoting on phone.

Also, sheeping Bofa on a bad and ONLY read is not strong play
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2022 Post by miminena » Wed May 14, 2025 9:46 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 9:43 pm
miminena wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 9:20 pm
ok this is interesting from bunny

if he is telling the truth will is scum and napoleoff is unpaired with mice

if he is lying then he is scum and i think him and napoleoff are probably not s/s

so napoleoff is lock town

which i was already at which sucks. i think we should sheep him on bunny since bunny has survived two days on the chopping block

we also guaranteed have at least one scum out so I'll maybe take a look at pairings
Your first conclusion assumes Bofa didn’t bus? Or something else? That scum!Bofa wouldn’t have missed?
so in the world where will is scum, napoleoff is scum, napoleoff is sniper, why does napoleoff waste his kp when he knows for a fact the role of me and yavuz? esp considering that yavuz was set to be voted off so if he shot me and got yavuz voted out will would get poison which is more scum kp
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2023 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed May 14, 2025 10:31 pm

We are going to have five people left tomorrow.

Two of them are me and Mimi.

If one of us is NKed, the other gets the poison.

Does this tell us something?

If there are two wolves left, and one of them is me or Mimi, do wolves just win?

I guess I need to learn how the poison works. How does the poison work? When do you submit it and when does the person die?

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#2024 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed May 14, 2025 10:33 pm

(Poison will kill a person midway thru a day phase, a poisoned player can be saved by Savior)
Does this essentially clear me and Mimi?

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#2025 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed May 14, 2025 10:34 pm

I guess we could be wolves together. Three blind wolves.

But I think we cannot be T/S or else the game is already lost. Do I have that right?

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#2026 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Wed May 14, 2025 10:39 pm

Well, there could be one wolf left. And then...it could be me or Mimi.

I need a spreadsheet.

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#2027 Post by DiplomacyandWarfare » Wed May 14, 2025 11:26 pm

hi
chomps is dead, that's good
bunny says chomps was town
thats weird and also interesting
ima do mech later
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2028 Post by BunnyGo » Thu May 15, 2025 12:10 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 10:33 pm
(Poison will kill a person midway thru a day phase, a poisoned player can be saved by Savior)
Does this essentially clear me and Mimi?
I think you have to apply the poison at night. So it doesn’t work quite like that.

But if both of you are town, then if they kill one tonight, the other can poison a scum during the next night and save us even if we miskill?

I think I have that right.
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2029 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 15, 2025 12:14 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu May 15, 2025 12:10 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 10:33 pm
(Poison will kill a person midway thru a day phase, a poisoned player can be saved by Savior)
Does this essentially clear me and Mimi?
I think you have to apply the poison at night. So it doesn’t work quite like that.

But if both of you are town, then if they kill one tonight, the other can poison a scum during the next night and save us even if we miskill?

I think I have that right.
Why do you think one has to apply the poison at night?

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#2030 Post by BunnyGo » Thu May 15, 2025 12:15 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Thu May 15, 2025 12:14 am
BunnyGo wrote:
Thu May 15, 2025 12:10 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 10:33 pm


Does this essentially clear me and Mimi?
I think you have to apply the poison at night. So it doesn’t work quite like that.

But if both of you are town, then if they kill one tonight, the other can poison a scum during the next night and save us even if we miskill?

I think I have that right.
Why do you think one has to apply the poison at night?
Because Mimi told me that in thread a while ago when I made the same assumptions you just made. And I figured she’d read the rules for mice closer than I did.
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2031 Post by miminena » Thu May 15, 2025 12:15 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 10:31 pm
We are going to have five people left tomorrow.

Two of them are me and Mimi.

If one of us is NKed, the other gets the poison.

Does this tell us something?

If there are two wolves left, and one of them is me or Mimi, do wolves just win?

I guess I need to learn how the poison works. How does the poison work? When do you submit it and when does the person die?
how do you know that we'll both be left tomorrow?

also it's been clarified that poison must be applied at eon, so if one of us is nked and the other is dked the poison is lost
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#2032 Post by BunnyGo » Thu May 15, 2025 12:16 am

miminena wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 11:07 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
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miminena wrote:
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both of you please calm down

yavuz has been acting very weird at many points in the game, and if chomps is scum it's very weird that he saved yavuz at eod. please someone else help me look into this; if both of you are town and you keep doming like this then scum likely have an easy win
I think yavuz is town. His late vote yesterday seems NAI and based on life timing showing up and tie breaking.

His progression with the mice seemed authentic.

Also if he’s scum, you should have died last night. Then he poison’s someone today before we can kill him.
poison must be administered at eon. if I eat the nk and yavuz is sent over he wouldn't get the chance to use the poison
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2033 Post by miminena » Thu May 15, 2025 12:16 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 10:39 pm
Well, there could be one wolf left. And then...it could be me or Mimi.

I need a spreadsheet.
if there's one scum left i'd venture to say it's probably not one of us

not definitely, but probably
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#2034 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 15, 2025 12:17 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu May 15, 2025 12:16 am
miminena wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 11:07 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 11:04 pm


I think yavuz is town. His late vote yesterday seems NAI and based on life timing showing up and tie breaking.

His progression with the mice seemed authentic.

Also if he’s scum, you should have died last night. Then he poison’s someone today before we can kill him.
poison must be administered at eon. if I eat the nk and yavuz is sent over he wouldn't get the chance to use the poison
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Yep, that is right. Just saw it on page 1. Use poison during the night for effect the next day.

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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2035 Post by BunnyGo » Thu May 15, 2025 12:17 am

miminena wrote:
Thu May 15, 2025 12:15 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 10:31 pm
We are going to have five people left tomorrow.

Two of them are me and Mimi.

If one of us is NKed, the other gets the poison.

Does this tell us something?

If there are two wolves left, and one of them is me or Mimi, do wolves just win?

I guess I need to learn how the poison works. How does the poison work? When do you submit it and when does the person die?
how do you know that we'll both be left tomorrow?

also it's been clarified that poison must be applied at eon, so if one of us is nked and the other is dked the poison is lost
If (in theory) we’d DKd you this past day and Balki was only mouse left:

Would he have to survive the night to use poison, or could he use poison as he was NKd (assuming he’s town)
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2036 Post by miminena » Thu May 15, 2025 12:19 am

BunnyGo wrote:
Thu May 15, 2025 12:17 am
miminena wrote:
Thu May 15, 2025 12:15 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 10:31 pm
We are going to have five people left tomorrow.

Two of them are me and Mimi.

If one of us is NKed, the other gets the poison.

Does this tell us something?

If there are two wolves left, and one of them is me or Mimi, do wolves just win?

I guess I need to learn how the poison works. How does the poison work? When do you submit it and when does the person die?
how do you know that we'll both be left tomorrow?

also it's been clarified that poison must be applied at eon, so if one of us is nked and the other is dked the poison is lost
If (in theory) we’d DKd you this past day and Balki was only mouse left:

Would he have to survive the night to use poison, or could he use poison as he was NKd (assuming he’s town)
i think he could use it before death and it would be applied the next day

just to be sure ##call GM is this right?
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2037 Post by brainbomb » Thu May 15, 2025 12:21 am

Poison is submitted as a night action
If a last mouse submits a poison at night and then is nightkilled
The poison would still go through and adjudicate mid day or at a time of hammer

Poisoning cannot be circumvented by hammering a day early
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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2038 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Thu May 15, 2025 12:23 am

miminena wrote:
Thu May 15, 2025 12:15 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Wed May 14, 2025 10:31 pm
We are going to have five people left tomorrow.

Two of them are me and Mimi.

If one of us is NKed, the other gets the poison.

Does this tell us something?

If there are two wolves left, and one of them is me or Mimi, do wolves just win?

I guess I need to learn how the poison works. How does the poison work? When do you submit it and when does the person die?
how do you know that we'll both be left tomorrow?
Well, I don't know that we will both be left tomorrow, so it's fair to point out that my phrasing was awkward. Feel free to insert "Assuming" before that sentence.

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Re: M1036 Flipless Coven Hunt I Game Thread

#2039 Post by brainbomb » Thu May 15, 2025 12:30 am

And one last bit because my first message maybe is confusing

If there is ever any situation where the game is parity, as in same number of town or mafia the game ends.

No other mechanics matter in parity.
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#2040 Post by brainbomb » Thu May 15, 2025 12:31 am

Probably a no brainer since thats just how the game of mafia works
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