MAfIA 84 - A VERY TENDER THANKSGIVING GAME THREAD

[BunnyGo]

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Hmm. So the only game I remember you from you were a solo scum of a type.

Why did you disappear? Why come back?

I actually lost multiple games in a row both as town and scum, my only previous win was as a substitute who did pretty much nothing. Meanwhile, IRL got busy and I missed turns in Diplomacy games and CDed out of multiple of them. I ended up not using the site for a long while, only coming back because one day I randomly remembered it and had free time.

Hmm. And any thoughts on why you lost a bunch? Besides the game being hard?

[BunnyGo]

It's some weird mathing damo, and doesn't there have to be some absolute truths for it to work? I'm not mathematician, but...

Their called assumptions. They may we wrong but after all this is just a contrived guessing game. I like to rationalise my guesses.

Dislike your British use of “they’re”

[BunnyGo]

This milkshake is awful.

Sickly vanilla.

Made in French Canada…

[damo666]

##vote rdr (value)

What does this mean?

Do you actually believe it?

a) he's the only one out of the three with highest frequency count who is voting Tem

b) it's a method!

Main thing is it seems to have sparked some conversation.

[BunnyGo]

This milkshake is awful.

Sickly vanilla.

Made in French Canada…

Ugh. Just finished my 900 ml.

Now to sit around until they call me.

Who is here to solve this with me?

Or just fill up the thread with chatter.

[BunnyGo]

##vote rdr (value)

What does this mean?

Do you actually believe it?

a) he's the only one out of the three with highest frequency count who is voting Tem

b) it's a method!

Main thing is it seems to have sparked some conversation.

Explain the Tem thing to me?

Can you elaborate on your methodology for excluding pairs?

Or give examples of the pairs excluded and why?

I think that’s more interesting than your frequency “math”

[BunnyGo]

This milkshake is awful.

Sickly vanilla.

Made in French Canada…

Ugh. Just finished my 900 ml.

Now to sit around until they call me.

Who is here to solve this with me?

Or just fill up the thread with chatter.

Either that or I got back to reading the murderbot diaries

[damo666]

What do you mean frequency? Not sure I understand where this list / numbers are coming from.

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

[BunnyGo]

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

The pairs you excluded is LITERALLY the only thing that is your reasoning. The rest is bs summaries.

So…why don’t you want to explain your reasoning?

[damo666]

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons

[BunnyGo]

Firstly I assumed certain players were town and then of the remainder I identified any pairs I deemed unlikely. I then listed all the possible teams of the three remaining scum and then counted how many times each individual player appeared in different teams. This gives a frequency count per player as listed above.

So for example although I think Tem may be scum there are only 2 teams I think he can be in so imo he is not a value vote.

Hope this helps.

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

Three people had 11.

So that’s math contradiction several ways.

What’s up damo?

[BunnyGo]

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons

Why no bussers? Didn’t you answer the survey with a 1?

[BunnyGo]

Good evening Macca. Come join us for a maths lesson.

[damo666]

My preferred vote today is

1) rdr (high value and voting Tem)
2) Bunny (voting Tem, slightly less value)
3&4) Ham (high value, vanity voting) or Chaqa (high value, voting stupidly)
5) heart (lesser value voting Tem)
6) Macca (least value voting Tem)
7) Tem
8) in the unlikely event none of the above are viable wagons I'll just have to vote ghug

I hope to be around at EOD and will vote in accordance with above preference subject to the constraint of getting a likely kill (so, if things stood as they are now at T-2 I'd be forced to vote my 7th choice).

All the above is dramatic events notwithstanding.

What does “subject to the constraint of getting a likely kill” mean?

It means I'm prepared to vote for a lower preference if a kill is more likely. E.g if I were the only vote on rdr, you were voteless, Ham 5, Chaqa 2 I would switch to Ham.

[damo666]

It's some weird mathing damo, and doesn't there have to be some absolute truths for it to work? I'm not mathematician, but...

Their called assumptions. They may we wrong but after all this is just a contrived guessing game. I like to rationalise my guesses.

Dislike your British use of “they’re”

Doh!

[damo666]

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

Three people had 11.

So that’s math contradiction several ways.

What’s up damo?

Lol.

And I've discarded my notes. Cba recreating the whole thing but I'll provide a couple of exluded pairs by way of example.

[BunnyGo]

If you add the scores it sums to 27 indicating 9 possible teams. I don't particulatly wish to disclose which pairs I excluded.

Three people had 11.

So that’s math contradiction several ways.

What’s up damo?

Lol.

And I've discarded my notes. Cba recreating the whole thing but I'll provide a couple of exluded pairs by way of example.

Can you provide us the updated numbers too?

What’s CBA?

[Temasek22]

Hmm. So the only game I remember you from you were a solo scum of a type.

Why did you disappear? Why come back?

I actually lost multiple games in a row both as town and scum, my only previous win was as a substitute who did pretty much nothing. Meanwhile, IRL got busy and I missed turns in Diplomacy games and CDed out of multiple of them. I ended up not using the site for a long while, only coming back because one day I randomly remembered it and had free time.

Hmm. And any thoughts on why you lost a bunch? Besides the game being hard?

Timezones meant I'm not here for majority of discussion (UTC +8), lack of individual skill, lurked way too much, sheer bad luck. All 4 contributed to my loss streak to various extents.

[BunnyGo]

Three people had 11.

So that’s math contradiction several ways.

What’s up damo?

Lol.

And I've discarded my notes. Cba recreating the whole thing but I'll provide a couple of exluded pairs by way of example.

Can you provide us the updated numbers too?

What’s CBA?

Can’t be arsed?

[TheMadMonarch]

Out of curiosity, are Chaqa, Ham and rdr's 11 possible teams in your model here similar? As in neither have had enough interaction with the other possible scum to have too many pairs deemed unlikely?

Good question!

@damo: can you elaborate on some pairs you excluded?

Did you exclude any thruples but allowed subpairs?

Base assumption: no bussers on sweet
Secondary: excluded certain pairings for my own reasons

No Bussers? Buddy are you crazy? These bitches love to bus, they'd be driving kids to school if we'd let em.