M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[Vecna]

was hamiltons vote on vecna actually at a time vecna could even flip realistically?

His vote put me in the lead, or on equal footing with other wagons twice.

He changed off of me for a little time to be on chaqa and then changes back to me again.

This is the reason im suspicious of Ghug. Both tried to focus away from ghug and HB and onto Chaqa and me.

[Vecna]

reading vecna and ignoring hamiltons vote; what do you think of vecnas overall postings this game

I thought he sucked at the beginning and then he had a very good moment (late D1?) and then he's been meh.

You expect people to scumread you for your vote, but the one person that actually is hard scumreading you for it is meh?

These 2 statements are strongly contradicting eachother.

[Vecna]

im just imagining that the consensus towncore here is

sweetandcool
vecna
myself
worcej

and I dont see eye to eye with any of them consistently. and I dont trust a single one of them.

is this just a problem with me as far as skills

worcej should not be on this list

[rdrivera2005]

was hamiltons vote on vecna actually at a time vecna could even flip realistically?

His vote put me in the lead, or on equal footing with other wagons twice.

He changed off of me for a little time to be on chaqa and then changes back to me again.

This is the reason im suspicious of Ghug. Both tried to focus away from ghug and HB and onto Chaqa and me.

Vecna is town.

HM tried to vote Chaga and Vecna and not Ghug that was the biggest wagon. And he wasn't even stuck on a strong town read of Ghug as he listed him as "ambivalent". Join this with Ghug strong push to get Chaqa and it's obvious why Ghug is the main wagon. So, I think that Ghug message is just appeal to emotion..

The other vote that strike me as scummy is Damo voting Chaqa right after HM, but would he be so obvious?

Damo gotcha moment is a town point to him, but he is capable of faking it I think, so still on my suspect list. I don't believe it was a slip by the way.

Anyway, ##vote Ghug

[rdrivera2005]

And sorry for being away half a day, but last night I had some family time after working until 09 PM all week.

[Jamiet99uk]

ive arrived safely in minnesota.

vacation part two begins

Is Minnesota a popular holiday spot?

[Jamiet99uk]

there will be a volume study on vecna scum games tomorrow if I have time. but i dont have my computer and its alot harder to do it on a phone. I think vecna day 1 showing up in final hours is something hes done as a wolf before. but i have to prove that

Why did you do a volume study of DemonRHK as scum, but not as town?

You only presented half the relevant dataset.

[Jamiet99uk]

reading vecna and ignoring hamiltons vote; what do you think of vecnas overall postings this game

Generally underwhelming except for a short period after he'd been under pressure.

[Jamiet99uk]

sweet is this awesome dude who I cant fully comprehend or trust and I know he is capable of being an elite wolf based on his understanding of the game. and this is a major flaw I had for like 15 games getting used to fluminator and you. where I just scumread you both every game habitually without being able to read you right

I do that with Jamie. I think it's healthy with people who get overtownread.

You do do that, you do.

[Jamiet99uk]

so then who is his teammate if it ISNT chaqa

consider that for just a moment

I feel like the Chaqa Jamie connection is bigger than the aaro anyone connection for me but he's not playing the game so connections with him are hard.

How am I connected to Chaqa?

[Jamiet99uk]

then im scumreading aaro for the wrong reasons

Aren't you scumreading him because of the scumslip that Damo exposed?

[damo666]

then im scumreading aaro for the wrong reasons

Aren't you scumreading him because of the scumslip that Damo exposed?

I retracted. It was probably semantics rather than a slip. However having said that I think if ghug flips as is proved scum then aaro autofollows.

[brainbomb]

DemonRHK Volume Study

Scumgames
M40 Day 1 posts: 13
M66 Day 1 posts: 28
M55 Day 1 posts: 10

RHK TOWN GAMES <- Edit
M36 Day 1 posts: 19
M51 Day 1 posts: 4
M73 Day 1 Posts: 40
M72 Day 1 Posts: 40
M67 Day 1 Posts: 38
M64 Day 1 Posts: 41
M63 Day 1 Posts: 19


Current Game
Day 1 Posts: 42


Volume would dictate RHK is in an above average posting habit if scum. And right around his avg as town

Jamie
the bottom half is his towngames.
I forgot to put Town Games as a header when making it. this shows tons of his town games.

[brainbomb]

then im scumreading aaro for the wrong reasons

Aren't you scumreading him because of the scumslip that Damo exposed?

No. I had my own reasons but I was saying they all revolve around being annoyed by things

[brainbomb]

##vote ezio

[Jamiet99uk]

then im scumreading aaro for the wrong reasons

Aren't you scumreading him because of the scumslip that Damo exposed?

I retracted. It was probably semantics rather than a slip. However having said that I think if ghug flips as is proved scum then aaro autofollows.

Oh.

[brainbomb]

ive arrived safely in minnesota.

vacation part two begins

Is Minnesota a popular holiday spot?

oh yes. the land of 10,000 lakes. cool summers. great fishing

[brainbomb]

I'm pretty sus of aaro switching off of Vecna as we're nearing EoD and Vecna was the top wagon. Very possible scum buddies getting cold feet about bussing into the ground.

Ezio thinks aaro is sus for pushing kaka

only read like 40% but also not understanding townreads on kaka yet. no spicytakes at all so far.

I just went through and did an iso on him and I suggest everyone else does the same. His content has been awful.

Then says kaka ISO content has been awful. So thats a very strange exchange that doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

I'm pretty sus of aaro switching off of Vecna as we're nearing EoD and Vecna was the top wagon. Very possible scum buddies getting cold feet about bussing into the ground.

This is fair. I moved because Kak’s been super weird. I was debating going back to vecna but they’ve since appeared. I’m somewhat naive but I also buy their explanation for their low posting. They also rescinded their call out of my math, and those were the two scummy things they’ve done. I feels overly convenient but I’m assuming it’s legit for now.

Aaro explains why he moved onto kak and says hes super weird.

Your switch off is also mightily convenient.
I kinda like the kak wagon, but assume for a moment you *can't* vote him at EoD. Are you switching back to Vecna?

Ezio likes the kak wagon but finds aaro moving off vecna sus

Oh wait, we have 1 hour 15 minutes. I thought we were down to 15 minutes only. I'm a lot less worried.

Then ezio doesnt find it scummy because of how much time is left in the day.

Probably not. My other scum read this game is ghug. I also think I had scum vibes from worcej early on but I think that was mostly due to how stubborn they were about math and mechanics.

I’d probably also consider HB. I don’t have much of an opinion of them but I think brain is town so I could sheep them.

now Aaro thinks HB is a consideration.

Ops, let me correct: you were obviously scum that game.

Anyway, what I meant is that I don't see this scuminess this game, you seem a lot more focused in the game.

Now rivera says he "doesnt" find kak scummy.

I'm surprised by this RD. I don't feel he's focused in the game at all. It seems to me like he's said a whole lot of nothing and taken the easy way out in all of his conversations.

When ezio made this post I found myself thinking... yes, rdrivera maybe is scum. something doesnt feel right about the HB push alongside chaqa.

##Vote rdrivera2005

And this is up to this point.

My thoughts on this are that Ezio looks like they really wanted vecna to die, and really wanted kak to become a wagon, and wanted to shade aaro for moving off vecna, despite also agreeing with the kak vote.

He then also shades rivera who is voting HB.

I think ezio is scum here, and if this is the case, aaro is NOT scum here.

Then ezio's teammate obviously is NOT vecna, so who is it?
Chaqa-sweetandcool-ghug all come to mind mostly due to what I explored above.

Jamie is town for how he thinks I am mafia, I dont think scum jamie could create this level of false certainty over a case he thinks is solidly built.
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reposting for discussion

[DemonRHK]

DemonRHK Volume Study

Scumgames
M40 Day 1 posts: 13
M66 Day 1 posts: 28
M55 Day 1 posts: 10

RHK TOWN GAMES <- Edit
M36 Day 1 posts: 19
M51 Day 1 posts: 4
M73 Day 1 Posts: 40
M72 Day 1 Posts: 40
M67 Day 1 Posts: 38
M64 Day 1 Posts: 41
M63 Day 1 Posts: 19


Current Game
Day 1 Posts: 42


Volume would dictate RHK is in an above average posting habit if scum. And right around his avg as town

Jamie
the bottom half is his towngames.
I forgot to put Town Games as a header when making it. this shows tons of his town games.

Awww you did a deep dive on me baby? <3

So expanding on this a bit: Preety sure the higher activity D1s are PR games (I think 73 is where I was the cop for example) and one of those scumgames is one where every one of my teammates drove a bus up my ass day 1.

And of course this discards early mafia games, which is correct since all of the bygone days of the old forum PALE in the level of activity we run now. I remember games where we never hit the 3rd thread.

Anywayt, morning/afternoon everyone. I am still on damo as my leading suspicion. And he is likewise fingering me, which is interesting (Or kinky, if that is your disposition)

[Ezio]

DemonRHK Volume Study

Scumgames
M40 Day 1 posts: 13
M66 Day 1 posts: 28
M55 Day 1 posts: 10

RHK TOWN GAMES <- Edit
M36 Day 1 posts: 19
M51 Day 1 posts: 4
M73 Day 1 Posts: 40
M72 Day 1 Posts: 40
M67 Day 1 Posts: 38
M64 Day 1 Posts: 41
M63 Day 1 Posts: 19


Current Game
Day 1 Posts: 42


Volume would dictate RHK is in an above average posting habit if scum. And right around his avg as town

Jamie
the bottom half is his towngames.
I forgot to put Town Games as a header when making it. this shows tons of his town games.

Awww you did a deep dive on me baby? <3

So expanding on this a bit: Preety sure the higher activity D1s are PR games (I think 73 is where I was the cop for example) and one of those scumgames is one where every one of my teammates drove a bus up my ass day 1.

And of course this discards early mafia games, which is correct since all of the bygone days of the old forum PALE in the level of activity we run now. I remember games where we never hit the 3rd thread.

Anywayt, morning/afternoon everyone. I am still on damo as my leading suspicion. And he is likewise fingering me, which is interesting (Or kinky, if that is your disposition)

Well to be clear, you're still no nokill, not Damo.