M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[Jamiet99uk]

Just noticing something, but when did damo claim to be drunk?

Here:

Me? OK. Better than 4 hours ago.

What happened 4 hours ago?

Had a slight hangover.

You're welcome.

[brainbomb]

Well this is bizarro world.

aaro cant be scum with ghug
and sweet cant be scum with Jamie

but sweet can be scum with ghug
and aaro can be scum with sweet

and sweet wants to kill ezio, and ezio wants to kill damo

vecna trusts sweet, and sweet only secondarily wants to kill ghug in most situations

worcej wanted to kill ghug and s&C secondarily.

Aaro wants to kill ghug, damo and / or s&C and ghug

Damo?? I have no idea what damo wants this game.

I am unclear on what Jamie wants this game other than revenge on worcej

I am unclear on what chaqa ultimately wants this game

I think based on my chat rdrivera primarily wants ghug to die

I also have no idea what demonRHK wants this game at all, hes spent around 70 hours voting no kill.

[Chaqa]

##Vote Worcej

He knows me well enough not to endhammer me for "being calm".

Such bullshit.

I'll cop to this being an idea worcej and I had in our private chat on Night 0 since it worked to sort you out last game.

Well you can both suck my fucking plums.

That's fair.

Can I offer you some Chipotle instead

[Chaqa]

Well this is bizarro world.

aaro cant be scum with ghug
and sweet cant be scum with Jamie

but sweet can be scum with ghug
and aaro can be scum with sweet

and sweet wants to kill ezio, and ezio wants to kill damo

vecna trusts sweet, and sweet only secondarily wants to kill ghug in most situations

worcej wanted to kill ghug and s&C secondarily.

Aaro wants to kill ghug, damo and / or s&C and ghug

Damo?? I have no idea what damo wants this game.

I am unclear on what Jamie wants this game other than revenge on worcej

I am unclear on what chaqa ultimately wants this game

I think based on my chat rdrivera primarily wants ghug to die

I also have no idea what demonRHK wants this game at all, hes spent around 70 hours voting no kill.

I'd prefer to vote Ezio, Aaro, or damo today.

I'm pretty unlikely to vote for anyone besides them.

[aarodactyl]

Well this is bizarro world.

aaro cant be scum with ghug
and sweet cant be scum with Jamie

but sweet can be scum with ghug
and aaro can be scum with sweet

and sweet wants to kill ezio, and ezio wants to kill damo

vecna trusts sweet, and sweet only secondarily wants to kill ghug in most situations

worcej wanted to kill ghug and s&C secondarily.

Aaro wants to kill ghug, damo and / or s&C and ghug

Damo?? I have no idea what damo wants this game.

I am unclear on what Jamie wants this game other than revenge on worcej

I am unclear on what chaqa ultimately wants this game

I think based on my chat rdrivera primarily wants ghug to die

I also have no idea what demonRHK wants this game at all, hes spent around 70 hours voting no kill.

Brain: I feel like you deserve this from all the work you’ve done. When have I ever said I was partners with ghug? People have been making a lot of assumptions about partners despite roughly half of the people not claiming.

[brainbomb]

the thing is, I have alot of opinions about damo. and most of them are really not very polite. He is an impossible person to have a conversation with, but I do want to understand him. I dont want to always have to dislike things he does. He has great games sometimes but he also gets himself deep into trouble with just poorly explaining his perspectives. he maybe doesnt get mad enough to seem town. Im not sure what it is. usually if he annoys me it means hes town. and hes annoyed me this game on one occasion.

man I really gotta think here

[Chaqa]

the thing is, I have alot of opinions about damo. and most of them are really not very polite. He is an impossible person to have a conversation with, but I do want to understand him. I dont want to always have to dislike things he does. He has great games sometimes but he also gets himself deep into trouble with just poorly explaining his perspectives. he maybe doesnt get mad enough to seem town. Im not sure what it is. usually if he annoys me it means hes town. and hes annoyed me this game on one occasion.

man I really gotta think here

Damo and Rivera exist in a permanent state of unreadable to me.

[brainbomb]

Well this is bizarro world.

aaro cant be scum with ghug
and sweet cant be scum with Jamie

but sweet can be scum with ghug
and aaro can be scum with sweet

and sweet wants to kill ezio, and ezio wants to kill damo

vecna trusts sweet, and sweet only secondarily wants to kill ghug in most situations

worcej wanted to kill ghug and s&C secondarily.

Aaro wants to kill ghug, damo and / or s&C and ghug

Damo?? I have no idea what damo wants this game.

I am unclear on what Jamie wants this game other than revenge on worcej

I am unclear on what chaqa ultimately wants this game

I think based on my chat rdrivera primarily wants ghug to die

I also have no idea what demonRHK wants this game at all, hes spent around 70 hours voting no kill.

Brain: I feel like you deserve this from all the work you’ve done. When have I ever said I was partners with ghug? People have been making a lot of assumptions about partners despite roughly half of the people not claiming.

Are you telling me you allowed someone to claim you as a partner and you did not try to counter claim that? you did nothing about that all this time?

who else colluded in such an idea? and for the love of god how would that ever help town to be allowing four people whose alignments you dont know swap around partnerings.

[Chaqa]

Well this is bizarro world.

aaro cant be scum with ghug
and sweet cant be scum with Jamie

but sweet can be scum with ghug
and aaro can be scum with sweet

and sweet wants to kill ezio, and ezio wants to kill damo

vecna trusts sweet, and sweet only secondarily wants to kill ghug in most situations

worcej wanted to kill ghug and s&C secondarily.

Aaro wants to kill ghug, damo and / or s&C and ghug

Damo?? I have no idea what damo wants this game.

I am unclear on what Jamie wants this game other than revenge on worcej

I am unclear on what chaqa ultimately wants this game

I think based on my chat rdrivera primarily wants ghug to die

I also have no idea what demonRHK wants this game at all, hes spent around 70 hours voting no kill.

Brain: I feel like you deserve this from all the work you’ve done. When have I ever said I was partners with ghug? People have been making a lot of assumptions about partners despite roughly half of the people not claiming.

If you're not partnered with ghug you're probably just being obtusely anti-town at this point.

You mentioned your day 1 sucking, and I think it's more a statement of fact than a narrative.

[aarodactyl]

Well this is bizarro world.

aaro cant be scum with ghug
and sweet cant be scum with Jamie

but sweet can be scum with ghug
and aaro can be scum with sweet

and sweet wants to kill ezio, and ezio wants to kill damo

vecna trusts sweet, and sweet only secondarily wants to kill ghug in most situations

worcej wanted to kill ghug and s&C secondarily.

Aaro wants to kill ghug, damo and / or s&C and ghug

Damo?? I have no idea what damo wants this game.

I am unclear on what Jamie wants this game other than revenge on worcej

I am unclear on what chaqa ultimately wants this game

I think based on my chat rdrivera primarily wants ghug to die

I also have no idea what demonRHK wants this game at all, hes spent around 70 hours voting no kill.

Brain: I feel like you deserve this from all the work you’ve done. When have I ever said I was partners with ghug? People have been making a lot of assumptions about partners despite roughly half of the people not claiming.

Are you telling me you allowed someone to claim you as a partner and you did not try to counter claim that? you did nothing about that all this time?

who else colluded in such an idea? and for the love of god how would that ever help town to be allowing four people whose alignments you dont know swap around partnerings.

Because I think the longer it went on, the more information you can get about ghug. And until your comment just now, no one has made any deductions that wouldn’t be consistent with the correct pairings.

Also there was no real way to use pairing for day one so it’s not against town to hold off on refuting the claim. Introducing late information helps reframe the prior phase, which is a serious upside to town.

Also I wasn’t going to explicitly say it during a night phase but I hinted at it pretty regularly.

[brainbomb]

this is probably the worst play in human history.

and there are plays where people marry a horse on stage.

this is actually worse than that.

NEIGHHHHH aaro. neigh.

[aarodactyl]

Well this is bizarro world.

aaro cant be scum with ghug
and sweet cant be scum with Jamie

but sweet can be scum with ghug
and aaro can be scum with sweet

and sweet wants to kill ezio, and ezio wants to kill damo

vecna trusts sweet, and sweet only secondarily wants to kill ghug in most situations

worcej wanted to kill ghug and s&C secondarily.

Aaro wants to kill ghug, damo and / or s&C and ghug

Damo?? I have no idea what damo wants this game.

I am unclear on what Jamie wants this game other than revenge on worcej

I am unclear on what chaqa ultimately wants this game

I think based on my chat rdrivera primarily wants ghug to die

I also have no idea what demonRHK wants this game at all, hes spent around 70 hours voting no kill.

Brain: I feel like you deserve this from all the work you’ve done. When have I ever said I was partners with ghug? People have been making a lot of assumptions about partners despite roughly half of the people not claiming.

If you're not partnered with ghug you're probably just being obtusely anti-town at this point.

You mentioned your day 1 sucking, and I think it's more a statement of fact than a narrative.

I think we fundamentally disagree on the value of having that information during D1. I would argue that many people (including yourself) had a way worse D1 from the perspective of mechanics.

[Ezio]

Lol bb it's fine. I kinda like Ghug fakeclaiming and Aaro not cc'ing tbh. There's no cost to town as of yet.
FWIW, I'm pretty sure Ghug is actually Aaro's partner but Aaro's just pissed he hasn't confirmed Ghug is his partner and everyone's just accepted it at face value.

[brainbomb]

if true it would mean that 2 or more town agreed to pretend to have different partners than they actually do, without knowing if the people they were partner swapping with were actually mafia.

for that many town to coordinate such a move in the thread seems almost impossible to execute. and to what ultimate gain?

[aarodactyl]

this is probably the worst play in human history.

and there are plays where people marry a horse on stage.

this is actually worse than that.

NEIGHHHHH aaro. neigh.

My partner is damo btw. I’m assuming that means that ghug has whoever the pairs list has assigned to damo, I think demonrdk.

Have fun thinking about everyone’s motives. I find it fascinating that ghug would pull me into a ploy and then push me for not making any strong reads.

[brainbomb]

well then damo is 1000% scum because he hates fake claims and thinks fake claims are exclusively anti town moves.

[Ezio]

Brain: I feel like you deserve this from all the work you’ve done. When have I ever said I was partners with ghug? People have been making a lot of assumptions about partners despite roughly half of the people not claiming.

If you're not partnered with ghug you're probably just being obtusely anti-town at this point.

You mentioned your day 1 sucking, and I think it's more a statement of fact than a narrative.

I think we fundamentally disagree on the value of having that information during D1. I would argue that many people (including yourself) had a way worse D1 from the perspective of mechanics.

aaro, stop thinking about mechanics. They really don't matter nearly as much as you seem to think at this point.
We've already flipped a scum. We have a full day and night of actual press to read. When we flip the next scum, we'll get another clear (unless we've already killed their partner). That's basically all that matters at this point.

Continuing to focus on mechanics remains a significant waste of time, and basing all of your reads and interactions on this will be useless to the rest of us. Nobody else (except maybe SnC) will care about it.

[Chaqa]

Brain: I feel like you deserve this from all the work you’ve done. When have I ever said I was partners with ghug? People have been making a lot of assumptions about partners despite roughly half of the people not claiming.

If you're not partnered with ghug you're probably just being obtusely anti-town at this point.

You mentioned your day 1 sucking, and I think it's more a statement of fact than a narrative.

I think we fundamentally disagree on the value of having that information during D1. I would argue that many people (including yourself) had a way worse D1 from the perspective of mechanics.

How ludicrous to suggest the person who helped catch D1 scum had a bad D1.

Do you even hear yourself.

[Ezio]

if true it would mean that 2 or more town agreed to pretend to have different partners than they actually do, without knowing if the people they were partner swapping with were actually mafia.

for that many town to coordinate such a move in the thread seems almost impossible to execute. and to what ultimate gain?

Wait, are you arguing about town fakeclaiming being anti-town now? Pot calling the kettle black lol.
While I agree I don't think it's particularly town motivated, what's the scum motivation lol?

[aarodactyl]

well then damo is 1000% scum because he hates fake claims and thinks fake claims are exclusively anti town moves.

Here’s my proof damo is my partner: we didn’t argue about math. Damo has sent me two messages over the course of this game and one of them was saying the probably was 3/7th, which I shut down. (@kak you were right about that. Except that the math is actually correct and the real tell is that damo didn’t mess it up)

I think ghug making a fake partner claim is very risky because it relies on my partner not giving it up.

Also the other message damo sent me was last night and it just was “I’m not planning on claiming” (paraphrasing)