M73 - Fowl Play - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BusinessLamp]

It’s almost like reads can evolve and change as new information is presented

[BusinessLamp]

Anyway, if worcej does turn out to be mafia, I’m ascribing my initial misread of him to the fact that during the night one scum meeting, they would’ve taken advantage of the fact that worcej was completely separate from everything due to not posting night one. So when he comes into day two, he’s under instruction to do everything he can to not be dragged into the mess of TFB/celaph. so it kinda makes sense why I’d see him as reasonable townie— he doesn’t really have to use any sense of artiface. So when looking at his iso we should look for unreasonable confidence on celaph, and lack of interactions with them in general.

[bozotheclown]

It’s almost like reads can evolve and change as new information is presented

What you pointed out was not new.

[BusinessLamp]

Yes, although I would prefer BusinessLamp first because I think Fluminator is more likely to be the flipper.

"More likely to be the flipper" in like, if the flipper is still around, Flum would be the mostly likely flipper candidate? Or do you strongly believe Flum is the Flipper?

I'm generally onboard with this bozo Chaqa coalition.

Yes, I mean more likely than BusinessLamp if the flipper is still around.

I don’t get this logic. In the situation where Flum and I are the scum team, if Flum is flipper, wouldn’t I be trying to get him out over me? Rather than reveal the goon, and add more info?

[BusinessLamp]

It’s almost like reads can evolve and change as new information is presented

What you pointed out was not new.

I’m talking about my conversation with Flum at end of day!!!! I wrote a whole essay on it!!!! It’s why he’s out of my scum consideration!!!!!! That was new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BusinessLamp]

bozo when this game is over can you take a long look into the concept of Confirmation Bias

https://www.britannica.com/science/conf ... nformation.

[BusinessLamp]

also, after finally iso’ing tfb, I see why voting sabi was idiotic. of all the things I did this game that was def the stupidest mistake, and borne out of laziness/self-preservation. v my bad

[BusinessLamp]

should I use my therapy session today to talk about this mafia game

[brainbomb]

should I use my therapy session today to talk about this mafia game

no but youve definetely mastered emotional appeals without typing in all caps or seeming like youre having a nervous breakdown.
you are acting upset and level headed and survivalist at the same time but it also is heavily packed amidst emotional
pleas that people just change their minds for really no actual reason why

[BusinessLamp]

should I use my therapy session today to talk about this mafia game

no but youve definetely mastered emotional appeals without typing in all caps or seeming like youre having a nervous breakdown.
you are acting upset and level headed and survivalist at the same time but it also is heavily packed amidst emotional
pleas that people just change their minds for really no actual reason why

and you think that is in my scum wheelhouse?
honestly it probably would be but i dont think it would be as natural or effective

[brainbomb]

should I use my therapy session today to talk about this mafia game

no but youve definetely mastered emotional appeals without typing in all caps or seeming like youre having a nervous breakdown.
you are acting upset and level headed and survivalist at the same time but it also is heavily packed amidst emotional
pleas that people just change their minds for really no actual reason why

and you think that is in my scum wheelhouse?
honestly it probably would be but i dont think it would be as natural or effective

I think you care only about living to the endgame.
and youll say anything to stay alive

thats a good thing. I respect that.

now please die

[BusinessLamp]

no but youve definetely mastered emotional appeals without typing in all caps or seeming like youre having a nervous breakdown.
you are acting upset and level headed and survivalist at the same time but it also is heavily packed amidst emotional
pleas that people just change their minds for really no actual reason why

and you think that is in my scum wheelhouse?
honestly it probably would be but i dont think it would be as natural or effective

I think you care only about living to the endgame.
and youll say anything to stay alive

thats a good thing. I respect that.

now please die

if this was true i'd let flum die.

[BusinessLamp]

As usual, we have an opposite opinion: I think celaph is the better info flip.

Celaph's result would help shine some light onto Maniac, Chaqa, Jamie, bozo, sabi, and TFB in my views of EOD1.

Do me a favour and list it out considering you have already done the work.

What can we infer about who as a result of the following:

a) celaph scumflip
b) celaph townflip
c) TFB scumslip
d) TFB townslip ?

TIA.

a) Jamie/Blamp/Sabi > Maniac > TFB >>>> bozo in likelihood to be scum.
b) Chaqa/Demon become hard-lock town for me. BB gets a stronge town read.

I assume you mean flip for c and d? I'll proceed with that:
c) Sabi looks the worst and comes off as trying to save teammate. Maniac/Demon/Chaqa look bad, but there is easier town logic to justify their moves.
d) I don't see anything gained by a town flip of TFB.

Anyways, ##vote celaph

this post is interesting. right before this post, worcej says he likes two of my takes, but then still has me as highest scum possibility. he only ever pushes celaph as an "info flip," something which isn't likely to rally people, but still allows him to be on the wagon and look good if celaph is voted. In both this post and his long post (which Flum quoted earlier today) where he analyzes the end of day, it's implied that he's going to push for bozo/me/Jamie as the next votes for "trying to save celaph."

i'm definitely like, going into this iso seeing if the worcej scum narrative makes sense, so take it with a grain of salt, but it does make sense to me as a story.

[BusinessLamp]

i also do think worcej's reaction to pressure today was more of being upset for being voted for for reasons he shouldn't be caught for, rather than being upset for being incorrectly voted for.

idk how to better articulate that or substantiate that

[BusinessLamp]

throughout day 2, worcej asks me to expand on why i think sabi and maniac are scum, and why i think celaph is town (at end of day). makes sense as trying to help teammates in indirect way

[BusinessLamp]

I need more why here.

What has he done that you find scummy?

Nothing blatant for me to move him out of null - his flip is entirely information based for me to either focus in on people trying to save him or eliminate people from a scum potential.

aka: i am voting celaph because i need to for positioning but don't want to campaign for him to leave

[BusinessLamp]

What can we infer about who as a result of the following:

a) celaph scumflip

a) Jamie/Blamp/Sabi > Maniac > TFB >>>> bozo in likelihood to be scum.

As it stands, Celaph is not going to be flipped today either.

This is unfortunately true.

I am null, but personally biased towards being fine with his death, towards TFB.

Won't be here for EON due to meeting at work.

Tier 1.0: Chaqa, Eden, bozo
Tier 2.0: BB, rdr, damo
Tier 3.0: Bona, ghug's slot, Blamp, Demon, pyxxy
Tier 3.5: Maniac
Tier 4.0: Jamie, Sabi, TFB

a strange progression on TFB. these are all the mentions of stances on him up to this point

[Chaqa]

Can we not kill Blamp today?

I'm fine with Flum or worcej.

[Bonatogether]

the role of flipper is so stupid because even after i am voted out people will be like "welp, theres a flipper, there's no way to know" and wont then re-examine how unfairly i was treated this game lol

If you are town, you were in the wrong place at the wrong time on several occasions. No one is out to get you for anything personal - you've been treated fairly.

[Fluminator]

TIL that GMs don’t ask if you’re available and just auto sub you in…

Ok my first post into the worcej reread and I'm already suspicious.
But since this goes against the rules to discuss GM communication I can't say anything. So I'll just make this awkward post instead.