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Finished: 05 PM Fri 10 Aug 12 UTC
Thursday Troubles-5
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Alex987 (174 D)
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: No response?
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: France you're a dishonorable player
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: I do understand how the ethics work, I don't quit my games. But you need to think of the reasoning behind the ethics. Just because there is a CD doesn't mean its an auto-draw. Like you said, you got the most spoils out of his CD, if I was unethical wouldn't I only want to stay in the game if I profited most?
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: you can both go fuck eachother. The game should be drawn, and both of you dipshits know it! France you're just too much of a stubborn ass to admit it...you need to draw the game right now
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Why would I want to stay in the game for your profit if I was being selfish? The answer is it's because I'm not being selfish, I just want to continue to play the game because it's so hard to find them. Especially press, everybody does gunboats.
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Bullshit...the game is unbalanced. I don't want the spoils. And it does pretty much mean an auto-draw. It means that the game in unbalanced and needs to be ended.
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: stop being a dumb ass dude. the gem needs to end NOW!
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: just vote draw...this is stupid. I wouldn't have attacked you but for your stubborn insistence that you weren't going to draw a lopsided game. Now vote draw
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: The game is no more unbalanced from Austria's CD than if he stayed. He was going to get destroyed the exact same way. The triple alliance unbalanced the game, not Austria's CD.
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: well why since you are calling us names
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Bullshit...yes we were winning, but he wasn't going to just hand over all his SC's without a fight. Anything can happen. Stop trying to be a hard ass and just draw the game. It's what we're all expected to do in those instances. he wasn't on his last legs yet. he was alive and well. end it now
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1908: He was not alive or well at all. 3 bigger powers from all sides were attacking him, he had no chance of survival.
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1908: you deserve to be called names . i tried being nice, I tried using logic, and explaining the ethic of the site concerning cd's, nope didn't register. Maybe calling you names will work.
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1908: he was france, and you don't know what was going to happen. just draw the game like a good little boy
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1908: England, stop being France's lap dog and force him to draw the game. Why would you think it's right to continue playing when everyone else has voted to draw?
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1908: I'm the one using logic. Logically with 3 people stronger than him crashing down on all sides, he had no chance of survival. I explained that, and you said "whatever", so I thought it was over. Then you came out and attacked me and renewed the argument.
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Usually when somebody stops talking, it means that the issue is done, but you just attacked me out of the blue and now you're calling that logic?
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1908: his position isn't the point. he was alive with 5 units left. that isn't a cakewalk, and if Turkey had helped him, he might have survived. it's a press game, maybe he called on me to stop and I did. the point is that you're acting like he was dead, and he wasn't. You're twisting things to suit you lame ass needs ...admit you're wrong and vote draw
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: And usually, when a nation goes CD, the other players vote to stop the game. and when one, like you, refuses, the other gang up on him to force him to draw. Obviously england attacking me isn't going to make you draw. he's your bitch, good for him
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: well obviously he wasn't going to call on anybody. Just because he's a bad player we should draw? And no you wouldn't have stopped, because everybody had something to gain and nothing to lose. Even if he stayed in the game he wasn't going to talk, so nothing would've changed.
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: how do you know that?
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: you're supposed to draw when there is a CD, and this was the SECOND FUCKING ONE! there were two, of which you were the major beneficiary. AND YOU NEVER DREW THEN. You're a piece of shit
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: COME OOOOOOOOOOOON, STOP COMPLAINING MEN!! loose with style....(almost like me xD)
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Italy went out, I asked for a draw, and you said no. Austria went out, I asked for a draw, you said no.
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Because if he is the type that CDs then he isn't the type to talk. You're trying to get us to draw because he was a bad player and wasn't able to persuade you to join his side with that argument. Nobody would've been persuaded, we all were gaining SCs.
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1909: how do you know what type he was? did you know him? there were two CD's and you never voted to draw. you're dishonorable , that is all I have to say
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1909: i'm so sorry guys but i must leave this game, here it's almost 2 in the morning....thank you you all, and please don´t be angry because a game.

I don´t like draw or cancel games too haha!!! GOOD LUCK IN FUTURE GAMES
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1909: so now there are three out...but you guys won't draw now huh?
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1909: good game Turkey :)
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: ey france!! i'm going to do a last movement, i will support you to serbia...the last movement of germany sucks!! hahaha
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: I actually would draw, if you weren't being such a jerk and drawing would reward you for it. I haven't said a slur to you yet and you're still treating me like trash. It's funny how you curse at people and yell while your reason is for ethics, isn't that hypocritical?
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: nope, not in the least. I was polite and respectful until you refused. You are trash, and deserve to be treated as such.
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: germany, you are like a little children...you are very funny
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: yeah, I'd like to see how you support a fleet into Serbia...dumb ass!
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: and you're a moron...never should have joined a low point game
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: England's going to just left France take all the point huh? You did realize this is a WTA game huh?
09 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: lol, so in high point games they like snobs more?
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: I am not a snob, I expect others to play by the ethic of the site.
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: And isn't one ethic of the site to not curse at other players just for disagreeing with you also? Follow some ethics yourself before you tell other people to.
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: It's not because you disagreed, it's because you refused and used improper logic to support your refusal. you were wrong, you remain wrong, and you will always be wrong. yet, you acted as if you were righteous. I tried being polite, I tried to explain to why it should be done, and you continued to dig in your heels. As such, you get cursed at.
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: Lol, look who CD'ed now? Such a hypocrite
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: oh never mind, still here
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: lol, so once again, because somebody dares to disagree with you against your far from perfect logic, you curse at them? Your argument was "how do you know?", and my counter to that was "well he obviously didn't care enough about the game if he CD'd!". And to that you say "dipshit"
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: I am not CDing, just ordering all my units to hold
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: ....and now not ordering your units to do anything.
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: again, hypocrite
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: I ordered my units to hold, that is within the rules, no?
10 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1911: Not going to try to stop France form getting the solo huh England? You do realize that he's going to get ALL the point huh?
10 Aug 12 UTC What a joke of a win France.
10 Aug 12 UTC Well it's been a joke of a game Germany

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

France
Alex987 (174 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
19 supply-centers, 14 units
England
EpicFail (176 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Germany
MichiganMan (5146 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
6 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
gurcuyo (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Austria
mr Kite (130 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Turkey
perraco (200 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
clockwork (333 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
mr Kite (130 D)Austria (Spring, 1905) with 5 centres.
perraco (200 D)Turkey (Spring, 1910) with 1 centres.
gurcuyo (100 D)Italy (Autumn, 1902) with 3 centres.
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