Finished: 10 AM Sun 30 Sep 12 UTC
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1 day /phase
Pot: 91 D - Autumn, 2019, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Argentina]:Good luck everyone
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Russia]:thanks you too
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Russia]:thanks you too
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Russia]:hey Europe let's be friends =D
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Argentina]:um... did you mean that to be a public message? XD
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [China]:gl hf everyone
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Libya]:Greetings from North Africa, and best of luck to you all
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [India]:Good luck to everyone!
01 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Oz]:Greetings from the land down under :)
02 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Kenya]:Everybody good luck!
07 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Western-Canada]:This is interesting, half of the African continent has given up.
07 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Argentina]:Just makes it that much easier to invade XD
08 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Western-Canada]:@ Frozen Atlantic: If you take over a game you don't want to play just don't take over!
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2002: [Oz]:@ WCan. I, for one, wasn't terribly UNhappy with F-A's choices ;)
09 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2002: [Argentina]:@ OZ. I can't imagine why :P
06 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2009: [Argentina]:I hate to do this, but I really need to pause while internet issues at uni are sorted out. If you could please vote to pause for a few days it would be appreciated
06 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [South-Africa]:Can't you get a sitter? I'm afraid we'll have problems unpauzing...
07 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Western-Canada]:Votes are the only thing I'm as strong as the rest of you :-)
07 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Oz]:Suggest everyone vote unpause except Arg, and when Arg has his internet issues sorted, he can vote unpause.
07 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Argentina]:Thankyou all. Hopefully I can sort something in the next couple of days. I write this from a cafe which obviously can't be relied on very well for a full game.
11 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Argentina]:My thanks to you all for pausing. I think I've sorted out a solution so I can submit orders reasonably regularly. But it will mean less communication. Thanks for pausing and you can submit unpause now
17 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Oz]:Wow.
18 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Argentina]:is it too late to jump out and shout surprise? or are you already as surprised as can be?
18 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Oz]:No, it was a good move from a morally neutral and tactical point of view- I respect the deception and being able to take the initiative as important skills for this game. Heck, I did the same thing to India earlier this game.

What I find surprising is that SA/P-R don't realize you're going to solo this game, and it would have been much better to try to hold you back now, vs. after you gain no fewer than 5 builds from me (possibly more, considering P-R doesn't believe in building fleets and you apparently have been effective at turning the two of them against me, and then the two of them against themselves).

Puppets will be puppets. GG all, and very masterfully done, Argentina.
18 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Argentina]:Right...because S.Africa being as strong as me means I'll solo...? Thankyou for the nice words though, slightly concerned about the size of my ego :S May need a bigger hat XD
18 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Oz]:Oh, the solo is easy. See, SA doesn't have the fleets to push west against you, now that you have your line set up and you've somehow negotiated taking Godthab, not to mention having northern superiority with being in Arctic Circle. SA busies himself polishing off Russia, and gets at most 2 SCs from me (Bombay and WAu, though those are contested). Then, he'll have a slow grind against P-R, as P-R mostly has armies and looks to be worried about his western border.

Meanwhile, you take NSW, Vic, NZe, and Len from me this year, and probably Indonesia and WAu the next year, with Japan soon to follow. Your fleets, being basically where mine are now, will then start attacking P-R, and unlike my slow advance, your's will be much swifter, as you have access from the north, have busied P-R in the west, and have plenty of armies to convoy while I didn't have more than a couple of armies.

IF you have promised a 2way split with SA, that would require a 43-43 split. You need 44 to win: you have 28. Godthab/Len/NZe/Vic/NSW/Indo/Tha/Jap/Gua/Lan/Sha/Bei/Kor/Vla/Yak = 43, and those are the ones that you will CLEARLY beat SA to. That means only one of: ESib, Ban, WAu, Maw, OR Cas would put you at 44 for the win.
18 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Oz]:Oh, wait. That was global chat. Woops.
18 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Argentina]:Well, that's certainly given me something to think about XD
19 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:Well Argentina, it seems you really are not worth the trust. You didn't have to let me live but was it necessary to make me believe so? I hope in real live you are a little bit more honest because everey word you ever sended to me was a lie.
19 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [India]:Take it easy people. It's only a game and it's called "Diplomacy"
19 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Hello again India. Didn't know you were still watching
19 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Western-Canada]:It's indeed just a game but he should not have prolonged my suffering.
19 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:You're right, I really shouldn't have. I was in two minds as whether to do so or not. As it happens the support required to get in took a little while to materialise (not that I'm blaming S.Africa, it took me a while to ask and decide when). So on that count, you have my sincere apologies for leading you on, whether pre-meditated or accident of circumstance
21 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2014: [Oz]:I respectfully request my home in the Phillippines remains under my dominion.

From there, I plan on watching the rest of the world crumble.
21 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2015: [Argentina]:The nation of Argentina hears your request, but demands you give him free stuff from the Philippines... whatever it is they make/grow there
22 Sep 12 UTC Spring, 2015: [Oz]:Done and done.
23 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2015: [Oz]:Hey, P-R.

I told you so.
23 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2015: [India]:LoL
23 Sep 12 UTC Autumn, 2015: [Pacific-Russia]:Umm .. hey, Oz, you told me a lot of things .. I guess at least one of them had to be right. :-)
28 Sep 12 UTC [South-Africa]:Nice game, seems to be over!
28 Sep 12 UTC [Argentina]:Well played Pac-Rus, fought bravely to the end
28 Sep 12 UTC [Pacific-Russia]:Well done you two!
29 Sep 12 UTC [Argentina]:Pleasure playing against everyone. Especially you S.Africa, wasn't sure you'd resist the solo at the end

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Argentina
joe_samson (487 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 46 D
43 supply-centers, 35 units
South-Africa
Rogerdm (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 46 D
43 supply-centers, 30 units
Brazil
ThaHunters (1385 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Pacific-Russia
Utom (924 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Oz
northstar (662 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Quebec
Buddamoose (427 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Western-Canada
Sir Olf (366 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
China
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Ghana
JozefK (142 D)
Defeated. Bet: 4 D
Europe
gta4pk (110 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Near-East
catsrock (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
USA
kabeavers (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Libya
Check_mate (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Kenya
maestro1971 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
nfscarbone (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Frozen-Antarctica
diplogold (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 2 D
India
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
fjim (100 D)Ghana (Autumn, 2001) with 4 centres.
emperorofmediterrean (143 D)China (Autumn, 2004) with 0 centres.
gta4pk (110 D)Europe (Spring, 2002) with 5 centres.
catsrock (100 D)Near-East (Spring, 2005) with 2 centres.
nfscarbone (100 D)Russia (Spring, 2011) with 9 centres.
raito (100 D)Frozen-Antarctica (Autumn, 2000) with 2 centres.
maestro1971 (100 D)Kenya (Autumn, 2001) with 1 centres.
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