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Finished: 09 PM Fri 31 Aug 12 UTC
My Ships don't Lie
1 day /phase
Pot: 88 D - Autumn, 1914, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Gen. Lee (7688 D (B))
27 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: well...do you want to draw because someone had an unfair advantage or because you are not doing as well as you would like.....
27 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: both, duh
27 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: i would offer a draw whether i was in first or last, its the appropriate thing to do.
27 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 1902: even though i hate to say it i have to agree with turkey. if no one replaces italy i'm afraid we'd need to draw. there would be a clear advantage that ruins the game
27 Jul 12 UTC Spring, 1903: Wassup peeps, new italy here, open to negotiations so feel free to drop me aline!
29 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 1903: this is getting to be ridiculous. russia missed a turn and germany missed another turn
29 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 1903: Agreed.
29 Jul 12 UTC Autumn, 1903: well it looks like russia is back in the game now.
04 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1905: oh jeez now austria is gone.
04 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1905: hopefully it was a one time thing if he continues not to play it would suck because a nation of that size cant just stop playing.
04 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1905: I didn't stop playing. I had a fishing tournament and i never got a chance to check. i'm sorry for causing any dissappointment :( i'm back now though!
05 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1905: ok thats cool dude. no problem.
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: oh wow. that's retarded and hilarious. turkey and austria having gay makeout behind the lines?
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: lol
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: i mean why would u stab me for a couple of centers when u could have austria who has about 3 times as many? lol what a retard
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Yea and he attacked me too lol. Kind of funny a turk who hates everyone except Austria.
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: kudos to austria he knows how to convince a retard to continue working with him when it's clearly best for him to work a solo effort.... but how does austria stand on getting his own 18 with turkey coming up behind his ass? i don't get it? i actually made offers to both of them the stab the other but they both refused when it was in their own best interest to take the plan. austria would get peace from knowing turkey would never be a threat to him, that he would whittle down the comeptitoin to just england and italy, and have better chances at getting to 18 than he does now.
turkey on the other hand would have gained complete superiority in the east and would have eaten me up later by just investing in a navy. that's all. he could've stabbed me down the road instead of letting austria lay there like a big juicy motza ball waiting to be eaten later, when its hard and cold and not as tasty. i seriously don't get it why they decided to work together aside from the fact that austria is a good talker and he talked turkey into not stabbing him. so again kudos to austria for that at the least (even if workign with italy would have given him a better chance at his own solo)
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: come on guys. it's just a game... and we played you.
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: yes it is just a game, VERY well played by austria.....but i still dont understand why turkey loves you so much.....
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: You can always tell the character of a person by the way they conduct themselves in defeat.

You know there are so many options with the "diplomacy" feature of this game. You can actually form a rock solid alliance with someone in this game, but it takes trust and sacrifice. Just remember, greed and double talk are fairly easy to see through with time.
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: 1) only germany and russia have been defeated. 2) i did say well played by austria, so i was kind. and you know what i will still be gracious and say well played to turkey as well but i still dont see how you will do greatly without stabbing austria.
11 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Turkey what you are doing doesn't make common sense. how many centers are you getting off of me? 2 or 3? you would get atleast twice as much if you stabbed austria, for half the work. but again kudos to austria cuz he convinced you to attack me instead of him

this is why i don't like playing low points games, you always have cd's and people who don't truely know how to play the game
13 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I think im a goner, but A + T won't be able to break the deadlock in germany, or escape out of the med if england calls his fleets and works with france. france and england, it is up to you to stop them! good luck!
17 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: well i guess turkey came to his senses :(
17 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: it was a long and prosperous relationship, but my growth was becoming too slow so i had to do it. Sorry bro.
17 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: I know, i completely understand broseph :(
17 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: Austria plz disbanded ruhr... It's a bit threatening to me and that's probably the unit u need the least.
17 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: Oh u did....my bad...
17 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: it was in burgundy... and i did disband it....
17 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1910: Yea just saw that lol...
24 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1912: I feel so unloved :(
24 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1912: I feel so unloved :(
24 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1912: thats cuz ure getting raped... ;P
25 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1912: I don't like this, sam I am. I don't like this one bit!
25 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1912: well italy turkey has 14 and you have 3 centers that would be easy for him to take and yet you help him despite the fact that I told you I would help protect some of your centers....I get you don't care about the game anymore but at least austria does.........
25 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1912: i have an agreement with turkey and i think we will see it out amicably.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: I have no idea how your agreement doesn't end in Turkey soloing and you being defeated though...
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: yeah with his builds he could easily support himself into rome and then naples and then next year tunis is easy.......
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: u think we don't know that? lol.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: i feel sorry for you england, all that work, and to have turkey come from behind and snatch it from your hands ;p

same for you austria, i offered plans of resurgence to both of u, but i was left with no choice but to work with the turkman
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: lol italy 1 its just a game....nobody had to "work hard". secondly no one is forcing you to work with turkey.....its been your choice the whole time.....thirdly hes going to win by taking you out....your just trying to be difficult and make it sound like your shitty situation is somehow our fault.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: dude i was finished when turkey and austria teamed up, so the fact that i'll survive is good enough for me

u are definitely the biggest loser here tho, 2nd place is gonna suck :p
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: its a game i can live with it....secondly you giving up is the only reason why turkey is going to win. when turkey stabbed austria you had the opportunity to salvage yourself. you still do your basically going to give the win to turkey and I know hes going to take your centers as the last ones to do it......
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: i bet turkey himself is surprised that your basically a patsy in this game. u gave up just because two of your neighbors allied....you gave up pretty quickly lol.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: The fact is turkey has 14 centers....if we all united against him that would stop his solo....but it will require your cooperation italy.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 1913: nah you guys deserve to lose this game, sorry but i have no choice but to help turkey to ensure my survival
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1913: well played turkey i dont think its possible to stop you i concede to having second place....btw italy it looks like turkey can still make sure you dont survive the game.
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 1913: i could, but i promised him otherwise.
30 Aug 12 UTC GG all
look forward to seeing whose who

see you around the forums hopefully!
30 Aug 12 UTC so italy, at the end of the day turkey did not win much more then me so "second place didnt suck". I still dont think that you shouldve helped him considering if you helped move against him FROM THE BEGINNING this predicament wouldnt have happened.

But, I dont want to sound like a sore sport, this was a well game played by all especially Turkey. Good game.

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Turkey
Gen. Lee (7688 D (B))
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 47 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
England
zqazi2 (635 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 29 D
11 supply-centers, 12 units
France
cardag (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 6 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Austria
jdog8 (306 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 6 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Italy
Survived. Bet: 11 D, won: 3 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Germany
Poustevnik (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 7 D
Russia
liam77 (190 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Poustevnik (100 D)Germany (Autumn, 1903) with 2 centres.
liam77 (190 D)Russia (Autumn, 1905) with 1 centres.
Kildeez (175 D)Germany (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
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