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Finished: 04 PM Fri 31 Aug 12 UTC
New World Order-7
1 day /phase
Pot: 499 D - Spring, 2022, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
12 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Western-Canada]:I'm ok with draw if u promise to un draw by end of week
12 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Western-Canada]:Shite I meant pause not draw obviously :)
12 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Western-Canada]:Ps why an over extended game? Not sure I agree with that sentiment, it has hardly stalled...
12 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Libya]:Starting in Spring 2015 (4 full years ago!), only 4 centers on the entire world map have changed hands. Two of those exchanges were just clearing Europe's remnants out of South America.
I feared that using the phrase "drawn out" would have been an understatement.
12 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Western-Canada]:Sorry but 4 sc's from one side to the other is a key shift, and what's wrong with them being in s America? I agree Libya has been stagnant for the last third of the game :)
13 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Brazil]:Sorry to be late guys ... UK time here. Have just paused.
13 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Western-Canada]:Can we all now press UNPAUSE, so that when Europe unpauses it gets going? Thanks.
13 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Western-Canada]:p.s. Brazil I am from UK also. Weren't the Olympics great!
13 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Brazil]:Yep .. absolutely fantastic. I was glued to my TV for 2 weeks. Now I just have to play more and more WebDip to fill the void....
16 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Libya]:Aren't we supposed to be unpausing by now??
16 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Western-Canada]:Yep come on guys...
17 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Europe]:all on SA...
17 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2018: [Western-Canada]:Ok we'll give it upto another week, and then ask the moderators to restart.
18 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2019: [Western-Canada]:Sorry but please could i have a 7 day pause? Shite wifi on hols
21 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2019: [Western-Canada]:Well new SA came just in time to mess up my orders :(
22 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [South-Africa]:You're pretty damn close to stalemated, WC. You should draw.
22 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [Western-Canada]:As i said before you joined, if 4 years in a row i fail to make any gains then i will join. We haven't had any yet.
22 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [Western-Canada]:Draw not join!
22 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [South-Africa]:You should know the drill by now. You know how to play; CDs like Europe should result in an immediate draw. That's shameful.
23 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [Western-Canada]:Who are you to talk. This game started with 17 and we've come a long way.
23 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [South-Africa]:The question is not who I am. It's whether or not you'd be stalemated and stuck where you are if someone were playing for Europe. The answer would be yes. That means the CD impacts the game for everyone and thus you should be drawing.
23 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [Europe]:Hello All,

I saw this game, and i couldnt help but join to prevent WC from winning :) @ Libya, i hope your an faithfull ally, because in that case, we can have a long and fruitfull alliance.
23 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [Western-Canada]:If there is a draw, i want brazil included
23 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [South-Africa]:Libya, up to you.
23 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [Europe]:hello all, i just asked WC privately why he voted draw, but i will do it in public now, so we all can decide on it, why do you need the pause? Do you really need it and how long would it take?
24 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2020: [Western-Canada]:The pause would have helped a week ago. I can cope now, back off holiday on Sunday. Internet has been patchy.
24 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2020: [Europe]:ok. then i wont need to vote pauze.
26 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2020: [Western-Canada]:After the SA move, I can't risk Brazil going out. I will accept a draw including Brazil at this stage.
26 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2020: [Western-Canada]:Libya & Europe, left to you to decide if you also want the draw.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [Europe]:i dont think Brazil has to be included.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [Western-Canada]:Phew 33 more orders done. Ok Europe says he does not currently want a draw. Let me know if there is any consensus.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [Libya]:I don't see why Brazil should be included, either. No offense, Brazil.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [South-Africa]:I agree on that. WC, I'm supporting to Buenos Aires from Santa Cruz with the SWA. Take Uruguay too and that disbands both units.
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [Brazil]:Lucky I don't depend on web dip for ego validation....
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [South-Africa]:For reasons more beyond this game ^
26 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [South-Africa]:For reasons more beyond this game ^
27 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [Europe]:@ WC, your back arent you? So could you not just push ready? I see you understand we dont accept a 5 way draw, so i dont see the point of wainting.....
27 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [South-Africa]:He's obviously not wanting to draw, Europe. I disbanded a fleet that he couldn't possibly need other than to attack me. I supported him and he deflected it. I'm not going to support into Buenos Aires this coming season without some kind of assurance that it's going to happen the right way.
27 Aug 12 UTC Spring, 2021: [Europe]:wainting = waiting
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2021: [Western-Canada]:It would be nice to end this. I would strongly prefer Brazil to be part of that, but if that's not possible I will look at other alternatives (sorry Brazil, but you have been very fair on understanding this). Your message re the support last turn wasn't picked up until after the turn had passed by.
Can SA re do the support, and can we agree (worldwide) all other units simply support hold each other this turn?
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2021: [South-Africa]:I'm fine with that.
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2021: [Western-Canada]:Europe, libya?
28 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2021: [Europe]:I cant see how my moves could hinder you in taking over Brazil, but i wont move on you.

If i was Libya however, i woulnt want to wait to take shainghai from you, so if i was him, i woulnd do any promises. But again, i cant see how he can effect your move on Brazil.
29 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2021: [Europe]:i hope we see libya giving orders in time.....
29 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2021: [Europe]:Wel done WC and SA. My move on libya is only because he had no moves registered and i was afraid WC would make profit out of it. So if he came back next turn, i will stop moving on him/her and work together again, so no hopes on a infight please.

But if he/she really CD's it looks like its a threeway draw anyways :)
29 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2021: [Libya]:Sorry about that. Everyone good to draw this thing once Brazil destroys?
29 Aug 12 UTC Autumn, 2021: [South-Africa]:Europe, Libya, throw your votes in and let's get out of here.
29 Aug 12 UTC [South-Africa]:Time to go, Europe.
30 Aug 12 UTC [Europe]:I really wanted to work with Libya and SA for the 3way, so i am a little bid sad they didnt dare to do it. But because i joined that late, i didnt wanted to push it.
30 Aug 12 UTC [Western-Canada]:Was odd having 2 new players come in so late. You both seemed quite good so pleased you weren't here earlier :). Well done Libya on getting the draw.

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Western-Canada
KingJohnII (1539 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 125 D
35 supply-centers, 35 units
Libya
Chief HusksCorn (2029 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 125 D
19 supply-centers, 19 units
Europe
Victorious (768 D)
Drawn. Bet: 81 D, won: 125 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
South-Africa
bo_sox48 (5202 D Mod (G))
Drawn. Bet: 78 D, won: 125 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
Argentina
Bris (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Brazil
RSf (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
China
sam_hunt (265 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Frozen-Antarctica
oldbenjamin (1412 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Ghana
Rivedo Degoss (495 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
India
mss (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Kenya
him (1269 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Near-East
Hubb (881 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Pacific-Russia
gta4pk (110 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Quebec
yeldarb (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Russia
ydntu (199 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
USA
Azertu (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Oz
tbagley85 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
Bris (100 D)Argentina (Autumn, 2002) with 3 centres.
oldbenjamin (1412 D)Frozen-Antarctica (Autumn, 2005) with 1 centres.
mss (100 D)India (Autumn, 2006) with 8 centres.
Hubb (881 D)Near-East (Autumn, 2004) with 0 centres.
Rivedo Degoss (495 D)Ghana (Spring, 2005) with 2 centres.
Wu.Method (100 D)Europe (Autumn, 2019) with 14 centres.
gta4pk (110 D)Pacific-Russia (Autumn, 2004) with 1 centres.
DiplomacyPlayer (200 D)South-Africa (Spring, 2019) with 16 centres.
Azertu (100 D)USA (Autumn, 2005) with 0 centres.
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