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Finished: 08 PM Mon 19 Mar 12 UTC
OTT WWIII
1 day /phase
Pot: 118 D - Autumn, 2016, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by gantz (3511 D)
18 Jan 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [Libya]:WE are open for negotiations...
18 Jan 12 UTC Spring, 2000: [South-Africa]:Gg all!
25 Feb 12 UTC Autumn, 2009: [Ghana]:I'm building two more fleets and pushing for The shores of the USA. Where are we going collectively? How do you see the next few phases playing out? Will you build another fleet to dominate the oceans around India?
25 Feb 12 UTC Autumn, 2009: [Russia]:Oh, I guess this collective idea of a draw is panning out well.
26 Feb 12 UTC Spring, 2010: [Brazil]:Indeed.
29 Feb 12 UTC Autumn, 2010: GameMaster: LordofDoom was banned: Multi: 29.02.2012. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
29 Feb 12 UTC Autumn, 2010: GameMaster: Woodsjacker was banned: Multi: 29.02.2012.
29 Feb 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Ghana]:so who was banned? USA and Pac Russia? I'm confused.
29 Feb 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [South-Africa]:it seems that both of them were banned...
29 Feb 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [India]:it makes sense... Pac Russia wasnt going against USA when he was attacking. im thinking draw because now the game is completely screwed up.
29 Feb 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [South-Africa]:draw? the situation is the same with or without them...as you can see during all this turns, they weren't able to force ghana or me to retreat...so i don't see why should we draw now
29 Feb 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [South-Africa]:in any case, there is time for getting replacement...
29 Feb 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [South-Africa]:in any case, there is time for getting replacement...
29 Feb 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:No, South Africa, it is not the same. The USA and Pacific Russia were the same player. There is a reason he held West Siberia when the USA walked into Yakutsk and didn't do a think about his further expansion. This needs to draw; that's the honorable thing and you know it.
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [South-Africa]:no russia, pacific russia was a new player a few turns ago...before that there was no cheating...and in any case i was fighting against India and Brazil...
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [India]:it doesnt matter that you were fighting me and brazil. you know that the game is uneven now because now you and ghana can easily take all of USA's centers leaving me and russia with basically nothing. you would have about 34 centers after the next few turns if you split them evenly with no one fighting back. please do the honorable thing
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:SA, it isn't a pure coincidence that PR was completely supportive of a takeover by the USA in order to get rid of me.. I don't know if you talked with him or not, but he was violent and obscene towards me, and made sure to say many times "The USA will get you even if I don't" - only with much more violence and anger. You know what should be done here.
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Ghana]:Listen, I can understand that you guys (india, russia) would like to get a return from playing a good game. It is unfortunate that USA and P.R. were the same entity and caused the legitimacy of this contest into question. However, I feel that the momentum of my alliance with SA would have undoubtedly won the day and because of that, I think that we should be able to broaden our point spread. I am not suggesting that the two of you be relegated to losing anything in this game, but SA and I should be rewarded for how well we played.

Can we agree to a broker settlement?
What do you say SA?
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:You are being rewarded, Ghana. A draw is more than your friends in the United States were going for.
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Ghana]:Russia, being obstinate about this is no way forward. I think I offered an amicable solution. You still stand to gain centers, and I would take that opportunity if I were you. Like I said, I think they way that both SA and I have played deserves a greater reward. I will vote for a draw, however, I reserve the right to do so at the time of my choosing.
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Ghana]:Also, i'd like to know how PR and USA's points will be divided. Will there collective 48 points be divided equally amonst the four of us? If so, I can see settling for a draw sooner, but again, I need to see how my ally feels about this. I'll post a question in the forum about this issue and see what the answer is.
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:No, since there is no player, they effectively "resign" and thus gain nothing.
01 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:In other words, if we can draw before someone finds the game and takes over, we can all get more than we would anyway. Aren't I clever?
02 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Ghana]:Alright India, you may be able to slow this train's roll, but your can't stop it from reaching it's destination.
02 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [India]:are you really gonna be stubborn about his? you know the game is completely unfair and you and SA have a huge advantage. why cant you guys realize that and just draw? SA was always going for a 3 way draw and a 4 way draw is basically the same thing
02 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:I think everyone can figure on their own by now what should happen, but I don't understand why people have trouble doing the right thing. In your situation, I'd be offering a draw. You know the game is skewed; that is only how honor works in this game.

Ghana, SA is going to screw you over before long. It's greed, and it's pretty evident.
04 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [South-Africa]:nop...i keep my word
04 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Russia]:Really? Then why are you and Ghana attacking me instead of drawing, as we agreed to way back when?
04 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [India]:well it seems they made that same agreement with me. they probably told USA the same thing
05 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [South-Africa]:well i offered you the same agreement and you attacked me, so i don't see any advantage in keeping my word...and Russia referring to your case, that was the initial idea, but in the agreement with you Ghana has the last word...so it seems that i "usually" keep my word, but not always :)
05 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Russia]:Ah, so you are trying to evade our point completely that this game is skewed and unfair. I see.
05 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2012: [Russia]:Ah, so you are trying to evade our point completely that this game is skewed and unfair. I see.
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [India]:this is kinda sad..... ghana and south africa, are you really that selfish? why is it so hard for you guys to just do the right thing?
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [South-Africa]:because for me that is not the right thing. With or without this banned player, the game was ours, so the right thing is to win the game...you know and Russia knows it
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [India]:no its not. the player made a huge difference. USA gave you the win when he was banned and you know it. there is not a huge difference between a four way draw and a win. besides no one would consider this a win anyway. its just a beginner who takes advantage of a cheater. you became powerful because kenya gave up and now USA got banned. that is not a satisfying win at all
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [South-Africa]:I dont agree with you
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [India]:well thats sad....the reason you are going to win is because you took advantage of a cheater. im sorry but that is really pathetic
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [South-Africa]:Nop this is webdiplomacy...and sometimes (normally i would say) a cheater or a nmr has fucked my game but this is part of the game
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [Russia]:So you just admitted that we are right?
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [South-Africa]:No i admitted that i am right :)
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [Russia]:By saying that NMR players can really mess up a game.. that's admitting I'm right.
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [South-Africa]:That happen but this nmr was useless the game was already decided
08 Mar 12 UTC Spring, 2013: [Russia]:Uhh... no, it wasn't.
13 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 2014: [India]:wow i still have my home centers... thats pretty surprising. i thought SA would be better...
13 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 2014: [South-Africa]:thanks :P
13 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 2014: [India]:well i just thought i would be dead by now but i guess im just putting up a decent fight...
13 Mar 12 UTC Autumn, 2014: [South-Africa]:I agree with you India!! A totally decent fight! Really great! Thanks for that :)

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South-Africa
gantz (3511 D)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 62 D
45 supply-centers, 38 units
Ghana
Survived. Bet: 5 D, won: 39 D
28 supply-centers, 26 units
Russia
bo_sox48 (5202 D Mod (G))
Survived. Bet: 12 D, won: 14 D
10 supply-centers, 14 units
India
sushi979 (412 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
3 supply-centers, 5 units
Argentina
Dlaptiger (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Brazil
Imakuni (340 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
China
Grief (133 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Europe
Myself538 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Frozen-Antarctica
Bearsguy34 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Kenya
Kcougar33 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 2 D
Libya
Gumers (607 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Near-East
kish (191 D)
Defeated. Bet: 8 D
Pacific-Russia
LordofDoom (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 11 D
Quebec
mpotrzeboski (597 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
USA
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Western-Canada
DColodro (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Oz
thelastChris (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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