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Finished: 09 PM Wed 02 Nov 11 UTC
Primaries
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 361 D - Autumn, 1906, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
29 Sep 11 UTC Spring, 1901: GL all.
29 Sep 11 UTC Spring, 1901: good luck everyone!
30 Sep 11 UTC Spring, 1901: I agree good luck to all
30 Sep 11 UTC Spring, 1901: Hail fellow rulers, looking forward to a fun game!
30 Sep 11 UTC Spring, 1901: greetings and good luck
05 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1901: I will be without Internet access for the next three days, but I can go without a pause by dragging out the Spring 1902 moves phase. Alternatively we can pause the game until Friday.
05 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1901: I don't mind either way
05 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1902: I have a slight preference for dragging it out, and avoiding the eternal wait for the 'unpause', but I can deal, either way.
05 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1902: i'd say we'll slow down enter of moves as long as possible, this way we should make it for friday.
but if the others want to pause, i'll do so too of course.
05 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1902: I am on the way out anyhow!
07 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1902: I am back, so no need for a pause.
11 Oct 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: i m the previous austria' s replacement...i hope we can work somethin out ... i m in little trouble... new at this
30 Oct 11 UTC Spring, 1906: If Germany disappears, this game will become unbalanced. I suggest we draw if he does.
31 Oct 11 UTC Italy? Turkey? Can we draw?
31 Oct 11 UTC problem is that almost every game has such a turn somewhen ... so most of the games should be drawn.
or the death of a imperator and the choas it involves is taken as reality that can happen in such a struggle of war – it means a race for the centres, maybe finding someone who takes over fast enough, be it another strong leader or a straw puppet of one of the remaining powers (don't want to say this should be a call for multi-accounting of course).
31 Oct 11 UTC OK... how many turns are you going to say "one more turn, this is probably a one-time occurrence"?

Truth is, this would never happen in reality. Real countries have detailed contingency plans in case their leaders die. They are able to keep on fighting, even if the prime minister, commander-in-chief or a similar high-placed official should perish. This is not the case in Diplomacy, where there is only one person controlling each country and no redundancy to back him up.

This is why I am asking for a draw – the game has now become unbalanced. If Germany and I had had a total number of centers less than yours, or had not been able to construct a stalemate line, I would not have expected you to draw (though I would have fought just as hard for one.) However, our two alliances had the same number of centers before Germany went into CD. Also, we would have been able to construct a stalemate line easily.

I will post to the forum asking for a replacement. Are you willing to pause the game until then?
31 Oct 11 UTC tl;dr This is Diplomacy, not real life. Germany and I would have been able to construct a stalemate line if he had not gone CD, and we would have drawn anyway.
31 Oct 11 UTC well, okay. if italy agrees too, we can draw.
31 Oct 11 UTC if didn't see it come that germany wouldn't do a move, i'd have moved to galicia instead of budapest - whether this would have shifted powers beyond a stalemate is pure speculation of course, but it would have been more interesting than the current outcome.
31 Oct 11 UTC and looking at your fleet count, i double doubt a stalemate line, but of course we can't test that now without germany.
31 Oct 11 UTC Thanks. Considering how many armies Germany has, I think we could have stalemated even losing Galicia and thus Moscow and Austria.
01 Nov 11 UTC Yes I agree with a draw. Its a shame that England has lost all of his allies to assassinations
01 Nov 11 UTC Thanks for the game, everyone.

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Italy
slut (157 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 120 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
England
TBroadley (178 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 120 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Turkey
HalberMensch (1783 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 120 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Germany
crowley (150 D)
Resigned. Bet: 50 D
9 supply-centers, 7 units
France
JohnWS (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Austria
bhanu (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 11 D
Russia
gordonpup (1390 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
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