Finished: 06 AM Tue 21 Jun 11 UTC
Adil
1 day /phase
Pot: 123 D - Autumn, 1907, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
26 May 11 UTC Spring, 1901: Greetings
26 May 11 UTC Spring, 1901: Greetings
26 May 11 UTC Spring, 1901: Hi guys
26 May 11 UTC Spring, 1901: whats up
27 May 11 UTC Spring, 1901: chillin'
27 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1901: With no English or Italian moves I vote for a draw.
28 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1901: Thought I would help make this game a better game.
29 May 11 UTC Spring, 1902: If Russia and Italy drop out, we should all just draw...
30 May 11 UTC Spring, 1902: Agreed
31 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: Alle Spieler - wunderbar
01 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: Thanks Squeeky.
01 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: Nice to see a full 7 people
03 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1903: Hmm, easy come, easy go
03 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1903: i took over for italy
04 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1903: I swear we've been through 3 or 4 different Italys...
04 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1903: Excellent, welcome scavenger
09 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: We've got yet ANOTHER resignation...

I'm willing to 4-way once Austria is eliminated. Are others are up for that?
09 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: How does that work with France?
I agree to a 4-way
09 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: how about we do a 5 way that wouldn't be fair to austria because he just joined
09 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: France resigned.

If you guys want to include Austria, that's OK, but it's not my preference, considering he/she will have only 1 SC
10 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: So what do I do to make this happen, click DRAW?
10 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: yea every body click DRAW
10 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: what about you france, turkey do you guy want a draw
10 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Sure, if everyone agrees...
10 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Turkey...
11 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1905: I'm for drawing.
11 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1905: So where does Turkey stand?
11 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1905: helllllllllloooooooooooooo turkey are you playing
12 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1905: Turkey has submitted orders...looks like Turkey is not agreeing to a draw and wants to continue....
12 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1905: So will Germany, England, France and Italy be able to unite against Turkey to prevent the win, or will Turkey accept the draw? Fall will be interesting.......
12 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: turkey if you dont awnser we may all have to ataack you
12 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: I would prefer to be well beaten by your united attack than now to agree to a draw.
I almost considered a draw but after what Germany is insinuating it is my intension to continue.
12 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: I'll cross-post my last remark to Turkey here (we had a discussion on meta-gaming [may be not the right term], I mean it to imply gameplay that is beyond the regular game. I don't want to imply foul play, just the nuissance of people quitting);

I mean with meta that there seem to be two games going on; one 'regular' Diplomacy game (marred by people quitting and leading to the meta-game) and a meta-game we should draw/not draw, influencing the game play of the real game.

I don't like it. I'm a newbie on this site and my experiences have been that the meta-game is more important than the real gam. For example (in other game); who can take advantage of other people quitting. That seems to be more important than actual Diplomacy skills.
I have taken advantage of it as well (again in other games), but it is not the "right" way.

Because I feel you should finish what you started, I'm playing on, but I'm not sure if I'll be a regular player here
12 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: Just to stress: I'm not accusing anyone of cheating. I'm just dissapointed in the bad sportmanship of the quitters
13 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: I understand being disappointed by the sportsmanship of the quitters....but sometimes it can lead to new players joining the game. The new players may have better sportsmanship, and will not quit until the game is decided or is a draw.
13 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: True, but not all new players have shown you level of dedication. I guess you are the exception that proves the rule...
14 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1906: Look at those bounces....
15 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: I'm impressed.
19 Jun 11 UTC France messed up the four-way draw so now it is a five-way draw.
Happy oh happy Italy.
19 Jun 11 UTC I enjoyed the opportunity to jump in and be involved in this game during the latter stages as France.
20 Jun 11 UTC Lucky Italy. Good game all.
20 Jun 11 UTC that was a close one thanks turkey :)

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Turkey
orion901 (2122 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 25 D
12 supply-centers, 13 units
Germany
coolname (162 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 25 D
9 supply-centers, 7 units
France
Corb (193 D)
Drawn. Bet: 18 D, won: 25 D
6 supply-centers, 5 units
England
Kaiasian (624 D)
Drawn. Bet: 8 D, won: 25 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Italy
scavenger (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 12 D, won: 25 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Russia
duc07 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Austria
Defeated. Bet: 6 D
Civil Disorders
Mt2612 (100 D)England (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
canttouchthis (173 D)Austria (Autumn, 1903) with 2 centres.
Squeeky3443 (100 D)Italy (Spring, 1903) with 4 centres.
adilio (100 D)Italy (Spring, 1902) with 3 centres.
Zumbuggy (100 D)France (Spring, 1904) with 5 centres.
duc07 (100 D)Russia (Autumn, 1903) with 0 centres.
milliondollarquartet (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1904) with 0 centres.
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