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Finished: 05 PM Thu 09 Jun 11 UTC
Experience Always Counts
1 day /phase
Pot: 525 D - Spring, 1909, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
20 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1901: I hope he'll come back and make his move in the next three hours, this would certainly ruin the game
23 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: fg
23 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: fg?
23 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: sorry, my computer must have spazzed out, i have no idea what fg is lol
24 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: fg btw stands for Franco-German...
26 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: this is the second game i've been in where a western triple has powerfully formed, well done to the three of you
26 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: western triple... ?
27 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: lol...
27 May 11 UTC Spring, 1904: turkey may be able to hold you off in moscow for awhile tho...
29 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: ggs
31 May 11 UTC Spring, 1905: Turkey says: "I know there is a triple or even more, because games where are players with 500 our 3000 and others with 10 or 20 points, the probability of existing clones is very high. But i don't care, because people wining like that are lying themselves, trying to hide their difficulties. But i know mines and i don't care if i lose alone, i prefer lose alone than win with clones."
31 May 11 UTC Spring, 1905: anyway, i treat every game like a WTA, and I'm rather impressed with the strength of this WT alliance, well played to the three of you
31 May 11 UTC Spring, 1905: Maybe you should get a life or a girlfriend and pass less time playing this and inventing stories bro
31 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: You're insulting someone for playing the same game as you? Clever.
31 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: umadbro?
31 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: haha, as if you ever go on 4chan
31 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: XD, nah I don't but I have a friend from school who is a massive troll, sometimes I like to play along
31 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: I see, hehe ;p
31 May 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: I'm here to pass the time when i don't have nothing more to do, i didn't insult anyone, i said ottovanbis should take this a little bit less serious and don't be so nervous.

If someone was insulted here was me by private message, but what is private i leave it private, not like other persons.
01 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: I think you should be careful with your accusations reagrding complicity here. Yes, I have 3000+ points and have played France in a number of ways and in this one it is a western triple. I have allied with England against Germany and Germany against England. I have never played with this France or England as I recall. Your message may have been private but any message can be copied and distributed as this was. Basically sounds like sour grapes from not having sufficeint diplomatic skills to encourage your neighbors to resist the triple.

The western triple is a very strong play by France, England and Germany and virtually cannot be stopped unless identified early and stlaemate lines established by 3 other countries and those 3 exclude Turkey. But of course I assume you know this with your superior skill set.
02 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1906: First i didn't made any accusition, i already said Italy is inventing stories on their free time, which should be a lot.

Second, it seems is normal for you guys play for a 4-5 draw, that's quite strange, never saw someone asking for 4-5 draws like you did on first days of the game. Probably is the way you won your 3000 points, asking for draws instead fighting for victories.

Third, none normal player of Webdiplomacy open his backs like the "western triple" is doing. I mean, you can open, if you are 100% in trust with your parterns, but after watching some stabs on this game, a normal player will not trust so much in any player in this game
02 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1906: I would disagree with your usage of the term "normal player" would not open his back. It has nothing to do with what is normal or abnormal. It all has to do with communication in this game and communication derives trust. I have also played in western triples and have been stabbed. I attribute that to the amount of trust I do have in my alliances and some just do not work. The majority do, however, and the strategy has proven successful for me. You do not get to this point level with 4-5 way DRAWS. To hold a western triple together for the duration of the game is rare - I admit that but this one will hold.
02 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1906: yes, and i invent stories, with correct grammar usage for the player (costa your textual accent is rather unique and impossible to recreate accurately btw, i would assume you are from Spain perhaps?) between knitting classes, and shuffleboard sessions because i have oh so much free time
03 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1906: Would appreciate quicker decisions on discarding units that are destroyed or are you just trying to piss off the world
03 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1906: Sorry, but some people work during the day.
03 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: Turkey. Normally in a two-way alliance, you would be right; no-one would leave themselves so open - this is because the idea is to get a 17/17 split, so if anyone is vulnerable, they'll be stabbed at the end for an 18th centre. In a 3-way alliance, this threat is not present, and if France were to, for example, stab me, not only would it get him no closer to a solo, it would damage his efforts against you.
03 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: Just trying to speed up the end game
06 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1907: can you guys just eliminate me quickly so this can be over?
06 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1907: So ordered
06 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1907: And many thanks for your help against the Turk.
07 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1907: I stop expansion at 13 and will S each of you till Turkey gone.
07 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1907: should be 3 moves
07 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1907: The colors on the board will be real pretty!
07 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1907: almost like that icecream...
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: England - take ANK and SMY, Germany take CON. Then DRAW.
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Take Albania! It's ever so un-neat left like that.
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Yeah, I know - same thing with that ugly green color in PIE and TUS!
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Let's not forget SYRIA!
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: you guys do know that you can just draw now...? right?
because turkey has cd'd you're the only remaining three, once i'm gone. and unless you plan on taking piedmont tuscany albania and syria plus turkey's last scs i don't see the point of taking just ank smy and con before drawing.
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: I know! Just having fun!
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: lol ok :)
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: and don't hate, minty green ice cream is delicious
07 Jun 11 UTC Spring, 1908: I take ankara, France takes smyrna, and Germany takes con.
And we enjoy an equal share of the pie!

One for all and all for one! GG everybody!
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Aeg - smynra to end it. All others holding. Finalize.
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: The perfect triple.
07 Jun 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: ho ho ho :P
07 Jun 11 UTC Wait, you need to take Syria!
07 Jun 11 UTC lol end it alrready
07 Jun 11 UTC but the patch of yellow D: D:
07 Jun 11 UTC I got stabbed!

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France
sweetwatersam (4867 D)
Drawn. Bet: 75 D, won: 175 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Germany
SynalonEtuul (1050 D)
Drawn. Bet: 75 D, won: 175 D
12 supply-centers, 11 units
England
Drawn. Bet: 75 D, won: 175 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
Turkey
costa (823 D)
Defeated. Bet: 75 D
Italy
ottovanbis (150 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 75 D
Austria
NARDOG (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 75 D
Russia
Eärendil (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 75 D
Civil Disorders
Eärendil (0 D X)Russia (Spring, 1905) with 1 centres.
costa (823 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1906) with 7 centres.
NARDOG (100 D)Austria (Spring, 1902) with 3 centres.
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