Finished: 05 PM Tue 22 Mar 11 UTC
live wta
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 105 D - Autumn, 1907, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Sargmacher (0 D X)
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: Umm, unbalanced? You think??
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: Interesting device!
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: all I ask, if you continue this game, ill make it personal to make sure everybody knows what kind of a holes you're being.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: I get a free night to play a gunboat and I get stuck in this crap game.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: (ava2790): I am able force a draw or cancel in this game based on the complaints made to me. If there are any objections to forcing a draw or cancel please make them now.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: Germany and England why don't you respond?
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: I agree with Turkey although I admit that I don't have the time to adequately follow up with such a threat.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: I do, it's spring break. 2 more weeks of freedom.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: I agree with Turkey although I admit that I don't have the time to adequately follow up with such a threat.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: I don't think it should be forced. Germany and England have had 4 game years to cancel or draw - they haven't bothered - they were selfish and unclassy and I want to beat them to a pulp for it.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: i think the game's still fun - it's imbalanced, but this is just a worsening of russia's predicament in starting larger. it's different, and not classic, but i'm still enjoying myself. i don't see why it's so big of a deal for people to end the game
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: (ava2790): Alright, if there are no objections by the end of Autumn 1904 Builds I will force cancel this game.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: (ava2790): Alright, if there are no objections by the end of Autumn 1904 Builds I will force cancel this game.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: and i didn't notice the thread until now :P ...oops
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: Why wasnt I able to see this message thread until now?
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: I strongly object to a cancel.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: because smart one, you're only taking over empty countries, austria has no italian threat.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: i object
that's not fair to me
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: Draw, don't cancel it.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: Like I said, I don't want to waste what little time I have playing a crap game.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: (ava2790): Ok I see an objection. I'm sorry folks, but, I'm going to put the game back in gunboat mode. Please send any further communications to me about this game via PM. Thanks.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: I want to see who the banned players were. And Ava is unwilling to divulge their names for whatever reason.
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: this game puts not only russia but myself at a serious disadvantage. it is supposed to bring thought and reason to the game, but it's only a crap shoot
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: (ava2790): Ok, we won't cancel it. How about a draw?
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: fair to you england because you are being an ass hole? yeah, good one. draw, we all get points and can start another game that is FAIR!
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: Why wasnt I able to see this message thread until now?
21 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1904: draw/cancel, just end this nonsense.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: i understand turkey's feelings, but i disagree that it's a crapshoot - anything can happen, we've all seen amazing comebacks
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: (ava2790): I will ask one last time - any objections to a draw?
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: no point to coming back from an already easy win. shut up england.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: (ava2790): England, do you object to a draw as opposed to cancelling?
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Wait. Ava, if you cancel the game (and I remove my objection) will you tell me who the banned players were?
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: I second Russia. Sorry I haven't responded all this time, but for whatever reason I simply have not been able to see this thread.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: None here.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Uggh, can we just end this fucking nonsense??? I'd really like to get started on a different game.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: I second Russia. Sorry I haven't responded all this time, but for whatever reason I simply have not been able to see this thread.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: (ava2790): @Austria - ok
@Germany - please just respond about your draw/cancel preference (yes or no for each). A reason is optional.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: sarge....you aren't going to see who they are for now. if we draw we can see who they all are.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: (ava2790): Same with England.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: i'd rather play it out and see what happens - it's still interesting. if people really want to leave, can't they just shut off their computers and quit? or start another? i don't feel like it's worth quibbling over a few points - i'm having fun, and starting a new game can be a hassle. it takes a while and it can be hard to get a game going.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yes and yes. Whatever is preferable to everyone else. From the looks of it, that is a draw.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: you can afford the points, thats fine by you. but don't you want to be a real diplomacy player instead of an ass hole?
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: I don't want a CD on my record. Some folks are particular about that kind of thing.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: its a democracy, and we've spoken, just draw it already
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: (ava2790): So, England is the only objection. Since we know what everyone else's positions are, I'm now going to make it gunboat again, and England should be able to hit draw if he changes his mind.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yes and yes. Whatever is preferable to everyone else. From the looks of it, that is a draw.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: i'm sorry, i guess i'm not a real player. i've been polite and haven't cussed. you're being a bully. please don't be abusive because i disagree with you.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yes and yes. Whatever is preferable to everyone else. From the looks of it, that is a draw.
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: Everyone kill England!
21 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: thanks, ava

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Austria
Sargmacher (0 D X)
Won. Bet: 15 D, won: 105 D
18 supply-centers, 13 units
England
PatDragon (103 D)
Survived. Bet: 15 D
11 supply-centers, 12 units
Russia
Oskar (100 D (S))
Survived. Bet: 15 D
3 supply-centers, 4 units
France
Resigned. Bet: 15 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Italy
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Germany
ceejinator (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Turkey
mr.crispy (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 15 D
Civil Disorders
ceejinator (100 D)Germany (Spring, 1905) with 4 centres.
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