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Finished: 10 AM Sun 10 Apr 11 UTC
Private Winter 2011: League B1 - Game 2
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Draugnar (0 D X)
22 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1906: I guess I could have said argumentative assholes... ;-)
26 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1907: innovative move from turkey...
27 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: What an exciting and interesting game...
I think my pants are wet.
27 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Turkey seems ready to fart at my general direction but the effect of his attack will be something less than that of an obsolete Libyan missile.
29 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Should we get a replacement for Hickman now or just make certain he is replaced in the next game?
29 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Bockman not Hickman. Stupid autocorrect.
29 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1908: In this situation, a 1-SC power can make a difference. I'd say get a replacement.
29 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Hey, Germany has entered orders...
29 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Dream on, Draugnar. Payback is a bitch...
29 Mar 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Good to hear. I'd hate to think a bitchy little girl had made it to the B-Leagues.
30 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Looked in the mirror lately? Don't think I've ever been stabbed by someone who makes excuses for it immediately. Quite pathetic, actually...
31 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: When Austria is gone, I vow to draw. But as long as someone with points is still in tha game, I will not draw. I will continue this game until hell freezes over.
31 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm not going to freeze...
04 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Here's the deal. If I can't get the win in 5 years, I'll back off and draw once Austria is gone.
04 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I'm ready when you all are.
04 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: omg you mean we ll have to go through TEN boring turns??
I'd rather go birdwatching.
04 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: How about this? We start game 3.
05 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Then kill Austria now. I know llama is going "That's metagaming!" but considering a persons position in the leagues is completely acceptable and llama already has 4 points. I will not give him more. If I have to win to prevent, so be it. But I am just as willing to 3 or 4 way draw (in fact, I like the four way as it keeps us considering the other three as the big bad point leaders) in order to not be the big bad point leader myself moving into game 3.
05 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: noone can attack anyone as long as you stay right behind us with the knife up our throats.
back off and move everything back if you want anything to happen.
05 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: It's in my best interests to ensure fewer people profit from cutting me out of the draw, so if they were to attack me, you'd get your win France. As for the measly 4 points I have in the league, I highly doubt I'll be getting any more in the next 2 games since apparently getting any points in the first game is an unacceptable advantage that means I'm running away with the league.

With two more games still to play, anyone, ANYONE, can walk away with this league and I just as much as anyone else could be at the bottom when the time comes. Whether or not you draw this game is unlikely to change that.
05 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Draug, since you won't work with someone who has more points than you, and no one with less points than you has an incentive to work with you, you've effectively isolated yourself for games 3 and 4. You're going to end the league with whatever points you score in this game...better make it count.
05 Apr 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I notice Austria is on the offensive and not trying to stop my solo. so maybe I'll sit back and see what happens.
07 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Hmmm... I can go for the win and be the big bad target or I can draw now and make llama the target. Hmmm...
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: game over
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: now you are the big bad guy
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Theres still time...
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: And I even screwed up an order. Pie should have been in Tus but I must have missed that order. It probably didn't save because of the "by land" or "by convoy" order.

Maybe I should back out of Ber and let Germany rebuild. <grin>
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Oh, and who told him to move? You had enough units to support hold it by tapping Mun with Boh...
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Didn't think you were gonna come in from the Baltic
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: draugnar the normal move would be mun-ber with 2 supports, while bur-mun with ruhr support. the only way to counter it was ber-mun with 2 supports.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: I honestly didn't expect to get in. I figured I'd have to force my way in to Liv from StP (with Bar falling in behind) using Bal and Bot then Tap Pru to make it in. I kind of expected to get Rom and Ber both next year, but the screw up of Pie ended that anyhow.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: I guess I'll take the win. Unless someone from Game 1's draw wins or there is a two way draw, I should at least be in the top 4.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: hmm you have some problem with the way you see tactics.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: And what do you mean?
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: If you mean at Tus, GoL was ordered to support Pie to Tus and would have made it in had Pie actually done the move because TyS tapped Rom to stop the support.

StP to Liv with two supports would have overpowered Liv to StP with one support and Bar following in behind would have bounced Mos as Pru would have been forced to protect Ber. The only shot to hold Liv would be Mos and War both SH it.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: it was obvious that you could take ber and end the game. austria would normally try cutting mun support, that's why you would get it from mun with mun-ber with 2 supports. you would also protect mun by moving there from ruhr or bur with 1 support. the only way we could answer that would be ber-mun with 2 supports for a bounce. but if you have foreseen this response you would just take ber from kie or bal (like you did) while supporting mun to hold with 2 supports (like you did). the strange part is that you chose the correct combination of moves without actually seeing any of those moves.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: when I saw bal-ber with kie support I was certain and amazed that you foresaw the ber-mun with 2 supports move :P
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: I would have had to take a small risk in the fall, but with the way the orders had been being predictable of late (part of why I went ahead and tried for Ber), I felt confident they'd continue in their predictable manner.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: You had tried them before, so I thought you might again. So I did see that, but I half expected you to change it up and support hold Ber.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: I only had three units on Ber, so Pru and Sil could have held it no matter what I did this turn.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: anyway, it would be hard to actually achieve a draw but I'm happy with the survival result as under the circumstances of this game I should normally have been defeated as Italy.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: btw sil just moved in there. last turn there was only pru to support hold ber.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Oh wait, I forgot, you only had the one because someone screwed up and left Sil open. Maybe that was what I was thinking when I did that. But I would never have risked Mun to take Ber.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: And I never did stab you either. I let Turkey do the dirty work at Tun and then kicked him out of it. :-)
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: there was no risk for mun (ruhr-mun with bur support or the opposite bounces with boh-mun with tyr support or the opposite, no unit in sil at that time)
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: I'm off to bed. 5 am here. I have a court at 9 am :P
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Good point. I just ever expected Sil to be left open like that. Good luck in court tomorrow. Hope you win if you are actually arguing a case.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: *never expected
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: And I just remembered why I didn't do the Mun move. I didn't want to have to protect a potentially empty Mun and A recently captured Bur at the same time. Of course, Kie/Ruhr/Bur) would cover Mun and Bal cover Ber, but still.
08 Apr 11 UTC Spring, 1911: hmm so you are a conservative player. I ll remember that for next games.
Court secretary is on a strike for 2 hrs...
Then I ll have to wait about 4 hrs and the case will probably be postponed to another date.
Maybe I should get a smart phone and use it for all that lost time playing live :P

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France
Draugnar (0 D X)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 35 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
Turkey
zscheck (2531 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Austria
Survived. Bet: 5 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Italy
hellalt (113 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
England
Perry6006 (5409 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Germany
bockman (510 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
pastoralan (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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