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Finished: 06 AM Fri 04 Mar 11 UTC
1 day /phase
Pot: 81 D - Autumn, 1914, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by tomob1 (183 D)
17 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1908: sorry Germany, do not think anyone wants to draw now....
17 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1908: nice of everyone to pile on
18 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: You're telling me.
18 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: That's the price of treachery :P
24 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: We're bad people. Oh well.
24 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: Greed is a powerfull weapon!
24 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: I would just mention that I am posting the draw that we agreed. I obviously cannot hold the two of you but I can hold one until the other has reached the victory point. If I do that the one that I choose to hold will win little.
I have been honourable with both of you, when I could have taken territory, and I now ask you to press draw before the time on this phase reaches 4 hours to go. If not I will choose one side to defend against and withdraw my defences on the other side allowing him to gain the needed centres to win. Try and do the honourable thing and let us all walk away with a profit instead of just one of us.
24 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1910: would like to point out that Germany is still in play and this will lead to a non-profitable draw between us four (for me and England so to speak). Also, you do not have enough forces to hold either side, and we co-operate to make a two way draw. So you do not have to whait for me to finnish your orders, I will not draw (yet) :)
27 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1911: Italy - there is no way for you to hold Spain this turn - I have support from Portugal M-AO and Bur - there will be a two-way draw between turkey and me.
27 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1911: I am well aware of your plans and I am sure that Turkey will do the homorable thing and let you even up, even though I have given him the opportunity to win outright. He will then have been honourable to you even though you have been exceptionally dishonourable to me. I suspect that if I had chosen to defend against him and let you in, you would have taken the opportunity and seized the outright victory.
Be kind if you want to him Turkey, even though you were not to me, but remember he would NOT have been the same to you. He is only making this much noise because he knows I can delay him and give you the opportunity.
Good luck for the future.
27 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1911: That is utter rubbish - even if he wished to I can easily take Spain this turn and Marseilles next turn, thus acquiring the 17 I need. Further to the point, valuing 'honour' in Diplomacy is like playing the role of the clement landlord in Monopoly - it makes no sense. It was mutually beneficial for Turkey and I to take your territories, and we did so.
27 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1911: Yes I agree, but would you have stopped at Spain and Marseilles if I had chosen to take my forces across and delay Turkey. We shall never know but I have my opinion.
If "honour" has no value in this game and we must all distrust one another totally then why is it called Diplomacy. Perhaps my values are too old-fashioned and I should stick to the "no in-play conversation" games. Good luck to both of you anyway.
01 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1913: Sorry guys, turns out I'm a dick.
01 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1913: noticed <3
01 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1913: Sorry Turkey, you played very well, but I'm pretty heartless generally. I always aim to win, and it seemed like too good an opportunity to miss...
01 Mar 11 UTC Autumn, 1913: well, can't say that this didn't spice it well up ^^ well playd England, well played :3
02 Mar 11 UTC Good Game, England. Well played

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tomob1 (183 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 43 D
18 supply-centers, 17 units
moeren (188 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D, won: 39 D
16 supply-centers, 17 units
JackT (155 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
yapoo4 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 11 D
The Situation (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
montgomery2 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
esk (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
esk (100 D)Germany (Spring, 1911) with 1 centres.
Angeliki (100 D)Russia (Autumn, 1901) with 4 centres.
yapoo4 (100 D)Russia (Autumn, 1902) with 4 centres.
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