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Finished: 07 AM Tue 08 Mar 11 UTC
Private GFDT 10 R2 G B3
1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 41 D - Spring, 1914, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
12 Jan 11 UTC Spring, 1901: I'm going to snooze until there's a day left in the phase. ;)
Good luck, all! I guess we get a ton more diplomacy time :)
14 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1901: No Russia? I vote cancel.
14 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1901: Sorry guys, something urgent came up. Given how long it took to get this game started, let's continue.
15 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1901: It doesn't look like Russia suffered much harm from the NMR, so why not?
15 Jan 11 UTC Spring, 1902: what are the rules of gfdt?
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: Well, that's embarrassing...
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: Yes, it is.
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: Who paused us? A mod?
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: A mod did so I could take over for the absentee Russia. Hello all!
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: I will get to everyone's diplomacy tonight and then order an unpause.
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: sweet hell, should we just let E/G/A/T take the game since we appear to be the only ones playing?
We may need a restart.
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: Look again my friend. If you followed the web discussion, you'll know who I am and I *don't* NMR, much less CD.
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: yes, but there already has been multiple NMRs from multiple nations. We all know that gives countries advantage over others, thereby unbalancing the game.
I have no issue canceling and restarting. I'm sure you are a player who won't nmr, russia. I just want to start fairly, since we've had, what, like 5 NMR's total before 1902 is even in autumn?
17 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: The GFDT director has said no to a restart on this and the other game I took over, unfortunately.
18 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: So, can we all choose "Unpause" so we can keep going?
19 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: Come on now, England and Italy. Let's make it happen...
21 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: OK, now I'm pissed. I could have sworn I ordered GoB to Swe. I think I've heard others complain about that exact order getting screwed up in the past... Hmmmm...
21 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1902: And no, I'm not claiming something absolutely went wrong, just kicking myself for obviously screwing up my orders.
24 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: juggernaut?
24 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: he helped me with 1 sc and you think we have a juggernaut? hardly. i plan to win this. not be part of some draw. i'm winning the whole gd gfdt doncha know.
25 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: Turkey has already admitted to the R/T.
25 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: was this before or after i took over because i have guaranteed him no such thing.
25 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1903: LOL! Ofcourse it was. It is obvious you two are running a standard R/T, it isn't hard to see.
27 Jan 11 UTC Spring, 1904: One of my orders is not being correctly entered. The single exclamation point by my status seems to be related. I've notified the mods, but I wanted to say something in advance.
27 Jan 11 UTC Spring, 1904: yeah, I've entered my orders twice and it keeps going back to not entered anything... something cooky is going on.
28 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: (orathaic): Pausing for the moment, Kestas wants to see this bug.
28 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: For whatever reason, my order went through the way I wanted. So you could unpause this.
28 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: the third time mine went through, so I'm good as well... if it pops up again, though, I'll be sure to email kestas and the mods.
28 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: If everyone is good, we have to vote to "unpause".
28 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: (orathaic): sorry, i was under the impression the bug as still live, and kestas requested that we 'catch' it so he could see and fix it.

Thanks for reporting it, unpausing.
29 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: I completely understand orathaic. Those random 'only shows up once every 500 games' bugs are hard as hell to find, so you have to log and try to get as much info as possible when they do pop up, so they can be fixed. 80% of the time, they are usually environment issues (ie: firefox 3.5.12 for the mac has this one little issue that does this and it affects webdip).

Like I said before, if I see it again, I'll report it right away.
30 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 1904: I'm sorry about last round! I tried to input my orders last night and the site lockup when I went to put them in. I tried to check a dozen times last night, but couldn't get on. Then today something cameup before work and forgot about it.
02 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1905: There is an excellent chance that I'll lose power in the next 6-12 hours, and it could be days before it comes back on. If I suddenly vanish for a long time, please pause.
05 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sorry if I haven't been chatty, but I'm catering a state version of the Winter Olympic games this weekend, and when I haven't been doing my day job, I've been prepping to feed roughly 1400 people for 7 meals over the course of 3 days.
11 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1907: Good game all.
11 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1908: Look folks. We all can see that France is trying for a solo. Quit worrying that one of us is an idiot and is going to attack another, giving France the solo. We wouldn't have made it here if we were that fucking stupid. Let's stop France and force a draw.
14 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Looks to me like Russia has done a good job of convincing people that he is their friend. He's got all of his units in other countries to "support" them.

Who's the one thinking people are stupid? Do the freakin' math yourself: it would be a MAJOR stretch for me to get five SCs and that would not win me the game.

Venice likely; Trieste will be really difficult; Greece is possible; Smyrna would be doable, but seriously not likely; if I got Smy, Con would likely fall, but since I'm fleet-based I couldn't get Ank. Nor would I be able to get Ser, Bul, Rum, Bud, Vie. Think how many units I would have to cram in there!

On top of all that, I'd have to hold on to everything I already have -- if you look up North you will see that is an impossible task.

Russia knows I can't win. He just thinks you're all a "bunch of fucking idiots".

One more thing, if I were trying for a solo, why would I have moved off of Norway to give it to my ally, Germany? Is that some new solo strategy I haven't heard of? No. Russia saw the writing on the wall -- he was dead with Ger in Warsaw and having lost Scandinavia. What does he do then? He raises the specter of a solo.

Watch your backs, friends...
14 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: France is bigger than any two other nations... I would be a fool to attack any one of you, knowing the other would turn on me and France knows this. He just wants your attention turned towards me so he has that solo shot. If you are "watching your backs" with me, then you have less to throw at him.

So, tell me why I would make even one enemy knowing it would result in two more turning on me? Simple answer, I wouldn't. Period. France, however, would love to see units move back towards me. Of that there can be no doubt. I'm not the one thinks you three are idiots. Quite the opposite. I think you are worthy adversaries and would not want to face off against two of you, much less three. So let's stay the course. I'm dedicated to the draw and have already voted as such. France, on the other hand, can lay no such claim.
14 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: A little more on our present situation. See how Germany and I managed to leave each other's SCs in the norht. And Warsaw was agree upon between he and I. In fact, he was supposed to get Nwy and still can if he chooses.

Turkey, did I not tell you of Austria's plans? And Austria, did I not refuse to to attack Turkey or Germany despite your requests? Germany, you may or may not have known it, but Austria wanted to attack Warsaw and I told him I would not do it unless you stabbed me further.

Folks, I am dedicated to the three of you. If I thought we could crush France and then have a four way draw, I'd say lets do it. And if one of you presents a plan of attack that lets us, then I'm in.

But know this, I have no designs on *any* of you. You have all either been true to me from the beginning or have kept your word over the last couple of years and I vow to honor that stability and reliability.

Now let's take it to France and push him off the map!
14 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: One more note. I will *not* be building a unit. Period. I wish for Germany to feel free to take Nwy at his convenience and not feel like he may be endangering the line somehow. Instead, I will be moving away from the Northern line so Swe is not threatened by me at all. And if Turkey wishes me to withdraw from Arm, he has but to ask.
14 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Blah, blah, blah... You still don't answer the big question: HOW do I get to 18? Where is this solo coming from?

The only thing Russia is playing for is a bigger SC count after the draw. Conveniently, you're now up to six SCs and are in not risk of losing ANY.
14 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Points are shared equally in GFDT draws. I have no reason to try to cushion my SC count. No motivation.

And I did answer. You will get them from several places when you have turned their focus on me. You will build fleets in Mar and Bre and armies in Par and you will dominate the board one SC at a time until it is to late for the others to stop you. I may not have the specifics, but you are the only one who could solo out of all of us.
14 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: Turkey and Germany - vote Draw with Austria and me. Let's make it clear to France that we are unified as one.
14 Feb 11 UTC Autumn, 1908: True, points are shared equally, but what is the tiebreaker?

Oh, yeah, supply center count...
15 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1909: So at 6, I have the same as Germany and Turkey... Not exactly winning that tie-breaker. And I also am leaving Nwy for Germany to take as was our (his and my) original intent that you screwed up by moving to Edi.
15 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1909: I'm glad you finally admit that you are aware of the SC count and that it matters. Now everyone can see through the rest of your lies...
15 Feb 11 UTC Spring, 1909: I'm glad to see you can't count. I said I was giving the accidental gain back to Germany. I'm not even building. And I'm not ahead of anyone save Austria who is behind everyone. I'm tied in SC count for second to last place. But enough of this metagaming. It is still obvious even to Dr. Master Warrior Diplofool, PHd that you are trying for the win ,d these are some bright players.
06 Mar 11 UTC I don't expect to see these moves process.

And it's a little late to mention it now, but the tiebreaker is actually GR.
06 Mar 11 UTC Every SC held at the end of a. Game you survive is a point. GR only comes into play if the point count is tied.
07 Mar 11 UTC wow... the names are a surprise. GG all!

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bockman (510 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 14 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
fortknox (2059 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 14 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
pastoralan (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 14 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Agent K (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Bob Genghiskhan (1258 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Sun_Tzu (2116 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Draugnar (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 6 D
Civil Disorders
ashen_shugar (236 D)Russia (Autumn, 1902) with 4 centres.
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