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Finished: 04 PM Sat 25 Dec 10 UTC
Anoki
1 day /phase
Pot: 160 D - Spring, 8, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
07 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 1: damn you Rome. You promised a convoy

@Greece, how do we split Rome?
08 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2: @Egypt: I am supporting you into Leptis.
@Greece. Attack Neapoli to stall enemy movements. But use your army to take Dalmatia.
@Rome: Support me into Punic sea from Carthage please.
@Persia: I am writing this message so you don't feel left out.
08 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2: Aww, I feel so included! :P
08 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2: I'm glad I could help ;)
09 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2: hit ready.
09 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 3: Woa Egypt, are you turning back on me?
09 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 3: @Greece: Get yourself into Ionian. 2 turns after you do so, I will support you into Neopoli
09 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 3: @Rome, support me into Sicilia from Ausonian please.
10 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 3: why does Persia never finalize?
10 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 3: I tend to be away from my computer at inopportune moments, and have missed phases due to them progressing early. Not finalizing lets me have more control of that.
10 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 3: @Greece, bounce Rome in neapoli to cut any chance of support.
10 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 3: If Greece listened to me I would have taken Sicilia...
11 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 3: You asked me to move into Ionian. Where I am.
11 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 3: but the following turn I asked you to cut off his support in neapoli...
15 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 4: Hey everyone. New Greece player here.
16 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 4: Greece, I hope to maintain our allaince
16 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 4: As do I. Greece and I have been friendly from the start, as you may notice. You're more than welcome to take Miletus, of course, as well as taking Crete back from Egypt.
16 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 4: I too, would like to remain your allies. I will move to Venice this turn, Rome, to be able to assist my holdings in Rav. Do not take this as a sign of trouble, as I do not intend to harm your territory.
16 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 4: So, do you want Neapoli or can I take it?
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: Egypt, I didn't build any armies to show that I am still honoring our agreement.
Greece, I am going to take Neapoli
Rome, well played, but this time Hannibal Barca won
Persia, once again, I don't want to leave you out. maybe when Egypt's closer to being destroyed, I will contact you.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: I would like to stay on friendly terms with you, Carthage, but considering our difference in size I cannot grant you Neapoli.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: Then I guess its was. Prepare the armies.
@Persia: Alliance against Greece?
@Greece, support me into Venice?
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: You want Persia to ally against me, and you want my help? That's kind of contradictory, don't you think?

Persia, I would think that you, by the looks of your forces, would benefit from not waging a two front war as much as I do. I would gladly keep our borders demilitarized, so you can keep your front secure down south.

Egypt, I realize you cannot spare any troops at this time, but take a moment and look at the contradictions in Carthage's words. He speaks with a split tongue.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: @Rome, support me into Sicilia from Ausonian please.
@rome, can you convoy me from Thapsus to Rome?
@Rome: Support me into Punic sea from Carthage please.

Here are some of my previous quotes to Rome. After attacking them, I expect them to help me in to their land.

One thing remains clear:
I have a nap with Egypt
I have declared war on you
I have honored every agreement I have ever made.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: @Greece: Here is my final offer, agree to give me Neapolis and go to war on Persia, and I will not attack you. If you refuse, I will have no choice but to fight against you.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: If you mean to honour your NAP with Egypt, something you've said you will, you have no place to go but through me. See, you're still not making sense, through all your fancy words. You cannot win by honouring both the NAP with Egypt, and the NAP with me. I don't think you play this game not to win - you're way too serious for that. Besides, your mightly fleet and lack of armies makes me the only rational choice. If you want peace, you'll grant me Neapolis, and turn against Egypt. That's the only way I can be sure you mean to honour such an agreement. Start making sense, or you'll have your war.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: I have been neutral before. I once didn't attack someone for 3 years waiting for someone to attack me. (stuck with 10 supply centers, needing 13 to win in the custom map on olidip )

I have no intention of winning, just gaining some points through Honorable diplomacy.

When have I been a serious player?

In my 3rd last game, I intentionally missed my orders to make it more interesting (still one though)

So I guess its time for war. Carthage will be invading Beleares, and Thapsus will be used to defend Gulf of Tacape, they will advance no further into your land unless you attack me.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: As I told you, I will claim Venice and Neapoli. After that I have no objections of creating a line of stalemate.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: My stalemate line from the eastern med requires Neapolis.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: After all, after Neapoli and Beleares, I will have no where else to expand, so if I don't get both, I will have less then 1/3 of the map. Which is pretty much all I want.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: It is also as you said, your troops would fair better in a war against Persia. Therefore its in your best interest to side with someone who isn't prepared to fight your over someone who is.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: That's my problem. Your logical way of expanding goes through me.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: I don't play logically. I play honorably.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: I admire honourable players. I'll bounce you in Neapoli this turn, and judge by the rest of the moves how I'll react during the next step.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: Thats the thing. I will be moving to Rheatia because frankly. I don't trust you right now given that you have announced several times that you are about to attack me and refuse to trust me.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: However, I will not attack a Greek Fleet or Army until they have attacked me.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: @Greece: I am certainly happy to continue our DMZ, as I have Egypt to focus on currently. My army in Chersonesus will likely be making its way south soon to join the fight.

@Carthage: May I say, it's highly amusing to watch your dialogue - and this is intended as a compliment. It's nice to see someone who takes the game seriously, but not TOO seriously, as many do. :)
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: Then I will bounce you in Rhaetia as well.

I have also stated that I do not wish a war with you. Ideally, I want peace. However, the way your troops are set up I don't trust you not to attack me. That's why I will bounce you in Neapoli and Rhaetia, to get a feel of the game and see by the way you move the rest of your units if you indeed are after peace. The bounce wont hurt either of us, and will give us some time to get a feeling of each other.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: Persia: That sounds good, as long as you don't take the long way around Dacia ;) I'll move my fleet or army into Miletus, whatever seems suitable, but I will stop there and not move any further into your land.
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: Carthage to Berber
Thapsus to GoT
Cirta sh Numidia
GoT to Ausonia (to prevent you from flanking)
Sicilia to Neapoli sb Roma
Massila to Rheatia sb Etria
16 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: My next turn will be:
Roma sh Neapoli
Neapoli sh Ausonian
Ausonian sh GoT
GoT sh Numidia
Cirta sh numidia
Berber to Beleares
Rhaetia and Etruia sh eachother

Then assuming you don't attack me Beleares will move to Corsica and the rest will repeat.

Then corsica will move to Punic where he will indefinatly support hold GoT
Repeat orders until either Persia or Egypt is dead where I will draw the game. giving us all 53 points.
17 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 5: I will be support holding everything except Berber which will be moving to Baleares
18 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 5: I am building an army at Cirta and a Navy at Thapsus.
20 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 6: Once Egypt is dead, are we content on drawing it 3-way. Or will we battle it out?
20 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 6: I'm content with a draw.
20 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 6: Let's see how things end up, but I will likely be all right with a draw.
21 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 6: for all you people i can't win so all my tropps are moving away from the supplies centers. they are yours
21 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 7: does Carthage have permission to enter Leptis?
22 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 7: yes
23 Dec 10 UTC Well played everyone.

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Persia
Lily (122 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 53 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Carthage
Fasces349 (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 53 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Greece
dachi (644 D)
Drawn. Bet: 35 D, won: 53 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Egypt
jkludwig22 (147 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Rome
Pipe (553 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Civil Disorders
ShiningIdeal (100 D)Greece (Autumn, 4) with 7 centres.
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