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Finished: 07 PM Mon 17 Jan 11 UTC
This Game Is Addictive
1 day /phase
Pot: 436 D - Autumn, 2014, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by rokakoma (19138 D)
22 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 2001: [Ghana]:Heh... You bastards, at least wish each other luck! :)
22 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 2001: [Pacific-Russia]:Good luck Ghana and everyone else! Happy?
25 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 2001: GameMaster: This user was banned: Auto. The time until the next phase has been extended from <span class="timeremaining" unixtime="1290732138" unixtimefrom="1290648576">23 hours, 13 minutes</span> to <span class="timeremaining" unixtime="1290734976" unixtimefrom="1290648576">1 days</span> (one full phase) so you can find a new player to take his place if you want to.
Make sure to finalize your orders if you don't want
to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily.
25 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Ghana]:Crap. I hate cheaters that fuck up games.
25 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Pacific-Russia]:Who was banned?
25 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Brazil]:maybe China?
25 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Pacific-Russia]:Could be, well China is dead anyway. So no point in waiting for new player
25 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Brazil]:One thing that should be sent by admin in this message was the countries that were suspended.
A suggestion...
28 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 2002: [China]:China will never die!
28 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 2002: [India]:How will China never die?
01 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2002: [China]:Balls. Maybe China can die. Curse you Russia. A curse on you and your family.
Good day.
01 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2002: [Pacific-Russia]:Why would he curse Russia? He never did anything against the poor, unfortunate Chinese.
05 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2003: [Russia]:Okay; USA missed the phase, I will take godthab next round, you can take alaska as I see, Argentine is getting into shape, so we can proceed....
I only want east coast territories so I think we will be able to agree on the long run ...
05 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2003: [Russia]:Oooops :D
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:The balance of power in this game is totally screwed up with three countries NMRing. How about a draw after they are gone?
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Russia]:I assume the withdrawal of Arg/Antacrtica strengthens india/usa/kenya making it more balanced actually. I really do not like they have left the game, beacuse it all but good for me.

Even though I'm against voting a draw.
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Ghana]:Even though it is very good for me that Argentina quit, I am voting draw. I don't think this game is balanced anymore.
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Russia]:Just for the note, the objective of this game to achive imbalances and win! And not maintain balance and live in peace and happyness forever :)
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Argentina]:i didn't quit, this is my only chance to get on internet during my vacation.... im stuck off the internet until january third, so im out of all the games i am currently in, which sucks... cuz i was in like 9 games... oh well. i can join again with almost 1300 points. so good luck making your conquest through my land and happy holidays to you all!! =]
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Ghana]:@Russia - you are right.

Because of what Argentina said - that's a reason to cancel/draw this game altogether. He is not a player with 2 SCs, he is one of the 2-3 leading players.
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Russia]:Ghana, neither you, nor PacRus is in trouble because of Arg/Frozen leaving the game. You are in trouble, because of the nature of the game.

The only one, who will have trouble because of the leavings is me! Kenya, India, even PacRus is already benefiting from these, so is USA. Guess who is the only country who is not?! Yes; it me, the strongest. Then what the heck are you talking about?!
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Ghana]:I am not talking about my trouble - I have already accepted the fact that I will lose this game. I am talking about how when a large power leaves all the sudden, the game is screwed - no matter on what side you are.
23 Dec 10 UTC Spring, 2007: [Russia]:I agree, it's screwed! But 17 players, around xmas, come on. Even in those games players leave, where there are no worldwide holidays. Shit happens, it;'s part of the game.
I can hardly remember any games I have played in, where 1-2 players didn't leave.

But you cant just start a new game everytime someone forgets to put in orders, puts in the wrong ones, some sits in front of their computer and presses ready by mistake, and so on ...

We are not in a university lab to provide 100% circumstances for the perfect game.

Do you think Caesar would have waited for Cleopatra to take her shower so she will be able to put in orders? Or Hannibal should have said, well, let's wait for spring, maybe Romans have some holidays now, they can't fight!

Come on!
23 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:We understand your point, but what's the point on playing by yourself when half the world is not being played?
23 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Russia]:Half of the world? All my neighbours are playing. So for me, there's no difference currently.

My problem with the Draw is, I put a lot of effort in this game to achieve what I have achieved so far, I don't want to erase it with a draw.

But you know what? If all the others vote for a draw, I will vote too... Let's see whether there's no point of playing for those, who are still growing, and not sliding towards disappearing...
23 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:Sliding towards disappearing one unit at a time means I stgill have 10 years left. That's a lot in agame of World Diplomacy. Anything can happen. I don't want to draw because I have lost a couple of centers. I want to draw because the south is now barren and it provides an unfair advantage to both the USA and Kenya who now have no need to protect their southern borders.
23 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Russia]:... and for you who was the first grabbing one territory, helping him to survive ...
23 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Russia]:Ohh, and you were not backing a draw when canada has left the game. You just took his territories ... Remember?! Now other get the same advantage what you got than. Live with it!
23 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Pacific-Russia]:Canada left after he was already dying not in full power. It's not the same. In fact Canada probably left because I was succeeding taking his territories. Having Argentina Ghana and FA NMRing in the same turn and both Argentina and Frozen gone for good makes this a crappy game from now on. I'm just suggesting we draw because it's damn boring to play against still units. If for you it's fun, then enjoy yourself.
24 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Russia]:As I told you, I will not prevent the draw, if the others vote for it... That's all...
24 Dec 10 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Russia]:happy XMAS for everyone!
03 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Ghana]:Good luck everybody!
03 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 2010: [India]:Thank you Ghana, good game =)
04 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Russia]:Can anyone explain me why my convoying to Alaska from Kamchatka with Arctic sea, supported by beaufort dodn't work out???
Here is orders history:
# The fleet at Beaufort Sea support move to Alaska from Kamchatka. (fail)
# The fleet at Arctic Circle convoy to Alaska from Kamchatka. (fail)

No one attacked beaufort or Alaska, while alaska only attacked Arctic which doesn't block convoying. So it's a mistery for me... anyone any guesses?
04 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 2010: [Pacific-Russia]:You didn't enter the orders correctly
05 Jan 11 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:PacRus if you look at orders history, it seems correct.
And now, I didn't get my build in belorussia. It's really annoying!
05 Jan 11 UTC Spring, 2011: [Pacific-Russia]:You probably tried to build a fleet in Belorussia. And I checked order history, you entered them incorrectly.
05 Jan 11 UTC Spring, 2011: [Russia]:really, damn! Thx for checking, anyway, it's part of the game, so I cannot blame it on anyone ...
05 Jan 11 UTC Spring, 2011: [India]:noone feels like drawing? Russia said that if you drawed he would too..
09 Jan 11 UTC Autumn, 2012: [India]:Draw?
16 Jan 11 UTC [India]:i have to say it was an honour to play with such good players =). its a shame it didnt turn out better for my side but oh well... this is diplomacy after all =). Maybe i should have made other choices throu this game, and i would have liked the draw but its just not possible.. probably Russia will win and he deserved it so good game everyone =)
16 Jan 11 UTC [Russia]:Thank you for all of you guys for the great game.
End especially thnk you Kenya/Argentina!

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rokakoma (19138 D)
Won. Bet: 18 D, won: 224 D
44 supply-centers, 34 units
red dawn (266 D)
Survived. Bet: 18 D, won: 142 D
28 supply-centers, 27 units
Button802 (665 D)
Survived. Bet: 46 D, won: 66 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
awmunro (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 18 D, won: 6 D
1 supply-centers, 4 units
Maxpedro (191 D)
Survived. Bet: 18 D, won: D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
cerdoman (0 D X)
Resigned. Bet: 41 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Silver Wolf (9388 D)
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
guak (3381 D)
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
century (438 D)
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
Aberacht (417 D)
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
Defeated. Bet: 4 D
kol1562 (106 D)
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
0x44 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
Baskineli (100 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
pancakes10101 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 18 D
Civil Disorders
0x44 (100 D)Near-East (Autumn, 2002) with 5 centres.
justinnhoo (2343 D)Argentina (Spring, 2008) with 9 centres.
Haryu (106 D)Frozen-Antarctica (Autumn, 2007) with 8 centres.
Roberto Salvaje (100 D)Europe (Spring, 2002) with 3 centres.
Pirx (100 D)China (Autumn, 2000) with 3 centres.
Lord of the monkeys (100 D)China (Spring, 2001) with 3 centres.
cerdoman (0 D X)Frozen-Antarctica (Spring, 2014) with 1 centres.
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