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Finished: 07 PM Sat 20 Nov 10 UTC
Featured The Gobbledydook Challenge
2 days /phase
Pot: 770 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
05 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1901: Wait, you mean you're going to sit in France, and let Germany and England take the glory (and SCs)? I wonder how that will go for you later ;)
06 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1902: i just made a shit ton of wine and i plan on enjoying it before going to war. i need my men to be drunk off there asses, otherwise they wont fight
06 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1902: May I suggest invading Holland to secure a supply of hash?
06 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1902: The British Empire is not going to attack France. Period.
06 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1902: The Austro-Hungarian Empire is not going to attack anybody! Exclamation mark!
06 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1902: And the Kingdom of Sweden is not going to be annexed? Question mark?
06 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1902: Sorry austria, holland is his, though he did promise me is first born
13 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1903: Why doesn't anyone talk to me at all....
13 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1903: Because you don't listen?
13 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1903: Gobbledydook always listens and is a great sholder to cry on :) figurativly speaking
19 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1904: Tomorrow I leave on a trip, returning on Sunday. I don't think I need a pause, but I may be slow to respond to any messages, and my replies (if typed on my phone) may be brief and misspelled. Thanks for your patience.
19 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1904: I'll vote pause just in case you need it.
20 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1904: Sure. I will vote the same.
20 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1904: I have voted the same.
24 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1904: In Tuesday afternoon I need to leave for five days. I would rather play this game myself so if you agree please pause. If you don't like the game to stop I will understand and find a sitter.
24 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1904: I have voted a pause for whenever you want. I will be home tonight so I do not need one myself. Thanks.
24 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1904: Thx. I will leave without vote as long as I can so that I will not hinder the game more than necessary.
28 Oct 10 UTC Spring, 1905: It is paused.
29 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1905: Nope its not paused until France votes for it.
30 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1905: and austria
30 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1905: Can we vote unpause for when he gets back? :) It is on Friday?
30 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1905: we can all vote unpause now, and when Russia returns he can vote and the game can resume.
31 Oct 10 UTC Autumn, 1905: good thinking :-)
let us all try and find a way for me to survive :-D
09 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 1907: Austria you can't win from the position you are in as France/England have stalemated you in the north, and France/Turkey/myself have you stalemated in the south. Your only choice at this point is to draw.
11 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 1907: Whatever you reckon, buddy.
14 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Let's draw now.
15 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: you mean after the retreats and builds/disbands
15 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I want to try a few more turns. Then, I will draw.
15 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: where will you be moving towards?
15 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'll be stopping over in Paris before visiting my friends at Buckingham Palace.
15 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: And meet with the Queen to sign the three-way draw pact.
15 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: EVERYONE FLOOD PALACE!!!!!
15 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: THE should have been in there
16 Nov 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Thx guys for teaching me... I think I will left now :-D
17 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 1909: We will from now on post out our moves.

F Nwy s StP
A Kie s Ber
A Ruh s Mun
F NAf s Tun
A Bur s Mun
F Spa s GoL
F WMS s GoL

This can be proved to be sufficient for stalemate, so please draw.
18 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 1909: Forgive me for being stubborn. I am aware of stalemates and will give up if I do not make progress.
18 Nov 10 UTC Spring, 1909: Ah, you bastards. I think you might have me.
18 Nov 10 UTC even with a fleet in pie you cant get through
18 Nov 10 UTC It is a tradition with my friends for us each to contribute a postmortem after a game. I will do this with you. :)

The opening: Italy took a one turn longer than I did to notice France's opening against him (or was committed to

attacking me) and I was worried about the build-up in the Balkans. The EFG was a prime concern, which afforded

me close relations with Russia.

I was always of the opinion that Turkey was a liability to Austria-Russia and a waste of resources since our units

were all standing off in the Balkans. To my amazement, Turkey did not sense our hostility and Russia convinced Turkey

to build a fleet in Smyrna in 1901. Apparently Turkey was committed to helping Italy against France (which he continued to the end).

In Autumn 1902, I managed to hold Russia to ransom by supporting Warsaw with Galicia in exchange for support into

Bulgaria. We did exceptionally well with Russia taking Ankara, and - to my further amazement - a Turkish disbandment favourable to Italy and us. Perhaps Turkey really liked his neighbours?

Also in 1902, England made a decision that greatly altered the equilibrium of the game by repositioning to take out Germany. I would have preferred EFG to continue its futile attack against Russia, but I suspect that I partly contributed to the English stab against Germany by supporting Russia and stymieing Austro-German progress. Meanwhile, Italy and France are also stalemated. IMHO, France should have also repositioned and left Italy free to attack me (perhaps with Turkish assistance).

After the threat of EFG disappeared, I gratefully accepted support into Constantinople from Russia, and set up Rumania for a stab. Up until this point, my game plan was perfect and executed like clockwork with good diplomatic fortune. Perhaps I went for Germany and Italy too late, or was just too slow generally. I could also attribute it to that unbreakable Franco-British alliance.

Thanks to everybody for not missing any turns, good play and good communications. It was very enjoyable! Thank you in particular to Russia for a superbly high quality alliance in the beginning and also to England for being a great antagonist (read: I want to track you down).
18 Nov 10 UTC ===
FOR READABILITY, I WILL REPOST THIS WITH CORRECTED FORMATTING
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It is a tradition with my friends for us each to contribute a postmortem after a game. I will do this with you. :)

The opening: Italy took a one turn longer than I did to notice France's opening against him (or was committed to attacking me) and I was worried about the build-up in the Balkans. The EFG was a prime concern, which afforded me close relations with Russia.

I was always of the opinion that Turkey was a liability to Austria-Russia and a waste of resources since our units were all standing off in the Balkans. To my amazement, Turkey did not sense our hostility and Russia convinced Turkey to build a fleet in Smyrna in 1901. Apparently Turkey was committed to helping Italy against France (which he continued to the end).

In Autumn 1902, I managed to hold Russia to ransom by supporting Warsaw with Galicia in exchange for support into Bulgaria. We did exceptionally well with Russia taking Ankara, and - to my further amazement - a Turkish disbandment favourable to Italy and us. Perhaps Turkey really liked his neighbours?

Also in 1902, England made a decision that greatly altered the equilibrium of the game by repositioning to take out Germany. I would have preferred EFG to continue its futile attack against Russia, but I suspect that I partly contributed to the English stab against Germany by supporting Russia and stymieing Austro-German progress. Meanwhile, Italy and France are also stalemated. IMHO, France should have also repositioned and left Italy free to attack me (perhaps with Turkish assistance).

After the threat of EFG disappeared, I gratefully accepted support into Constantinople from Russia, and set up Rumania for a stab. Up until this point, my game plan was perfect and executed like clockwork with good diplomatic fortune. Perhaps I went for Germany and Italy too late, or was just too slow generally. I could also attribute it to that unbreakable Franco-British alliance.

Thanks to everybody for not missing any turns, good play and good communications. It was very enjoyable! Thank you in particular to Russia for a superbly high quality alliance in the beginning and also to England for being a great antagonist (read: I want to track you down).
18 Nov 10 UTC "stymieing Austro-German progress" should read "Anglo-German".
18 Nov 10 UTC I hope to hear others' perspective!
18 Nov 10 UTC At first I had settled on an EFG alliance. France opened south immediately, while Germany went for Russia. Seeing Belgium was uncontested, I convoyed an army in.
France was quite quickly bogged down in the south. I started to send fleets northward while Austria, having supported himself into Galicia, actually supported Warsaw hold. That stopped Germany's advance.
The 'game-altering' stab occurred 1902 fall. I had thought I supported hold Holland, actually, and was surprised to see my army move into Holland, just at the time when Germany moved out. Germany never spoke to me since, although I offered to move out of Holland, so I decided to continue with attacking Germany. Russia mobilized against me, and supported Germany in Scandinavia. I offered to give Russia Sweden in exchange for his help, but he refused. Then, luckily, Austria came to my rescue by stabbing immediately. So by 1903, there were already two major stabs. From then on Russia was firmly on my side.
I slowly advanced through Germany while Austria started to eat up Russia. I gave lots of advice to Russia as to how to defend, and was quite successful for some time. Germany decided to throw the game to Austria, and caused immense trouble to me. At this point I had already decided to kill Russia sooner or later, and started contemplating stabbing France and drawing with Austria. But Austria clearly wanted to win, by moving against Germany himself, and I had no choice but to keep France.
I timed Russia's death with his last contribution (letting France get Munich). Then we scrambled to the stale-mate line in the south, just in time. (Actually, we could have given up Tunis and fallen back to Spa/Mar/Mid, with Austria at only 17, but why not keep it?) I spent the last years before the draw coloring Finland and Picardy. The only shame is that Austria didn't annex Syria...

Good game, with many strange and new alliances and moves. I liked Austria's Gal s War, followed immediately with Gal - Rum; Turkey's devotion to Italy; everyone still alive until 1906; and of course my accidental game-changing move to Holland. Congratulations to Austria and France for the draw, the other players for putting up a struggle, especially Russia and Germany.
18 Nov 10 UTC A good post-mortem. Accidental! Believable, I suppose... :)
18 Nov 10 UTC I'll try to leave one tomorrow, just got done writing a 13 page paper i'm a litle typed out. for now, I will say great game, and it was an honor to fight with and beside both of you. both of you are truly honorable diplomats. more to come :)
19 Nov 10 UTC Interesting comments by England. After taking Holland, you wrote, "I'll move out in the Spring." Then you didn't. Are you now saying that if I had typed, "OK," you would have moved out?
19 Nov 10 UTC So it continues......

:D
19 Nov 10 UTC "Germany never spoke to me since, [...], so I decided to continue with attacking Germany"
20 Nov 10 UTC Actually, yes.
20 Nov 10 UTC All I can say is, OK!

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

Austria
Bezborodov (775 D)
Drawn. Bet: 110 D, won: 257 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
England
Gobbledydook (1389 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 110 D, won: 257 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
France
akilies (861 D)
Drawn. Bet: 110 D, won: 257 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Russia
Kamen (1935 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 110 D
Germany
Aurens (252 D)
Defeated. Bet: 110 D
Turkey
TrustMe (106 D)
Defeated. Bet: 110 D
Italy
kreilly89 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 110 D
Civil Disorders
kreilly89 (100 D)Italy (Autumn, 1907) with 0 centres.
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