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Finished: 08 PM Wed 22 Sep 10 UTC
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1 day /phase
Pot: 70 D - Autumn, 1908, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Baskineli (100 D (B))
17 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1906: italy, you are screwed.
17 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1906: And I will just keep doing what I'm doing. It's a small part of the resistance, but its home!
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: Italy, I swear to god. Support me to Pie, and I'll be out of Marseilles. If you take any of my centers, I will support Austria in every last center he needs to get the win.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sorry about the Bal confusion, Russia. Move there if you'd like.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: or he could be hedging his bets against your eventual destruction, and the holes italy's disintegration will make in the overall line.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: What's the olde expression? If it walks like a knife and it talks like a knife, then it's a knife. Or England. Or England with a knife. Seriously, aside from all the F-bombs, who can believe a person who moves a fleet to baltic without coordinating? Or.. more importantly, moves an army to Edinburg - to convoy WHERE that isn't Russian? (or runs an army thorugh Marseille when expressedly UNinvited lol?) My Russian friend, you are too trusting by half. You no longer have a threat on St. Pete, Finland can now hold off ANY AH assault on St. Pete...
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: I'm only glad that I woke up to him when I did. Remember, I was the sucker that promised England I wouldn't go to Brest last fall...and didn't? Only to have him stab the southern defender of the line, Italy, by taking Marseille? AH. let Tuscany back out, it's clear to me that my best course of action is to deploy my troops to HELP you get 18. One small suggestion? Since you know I cannot grow...let my pieces be the shock troops hitting France, and move up your armies behind me but don't take the SC's (like Tunis) for a year. That will leave me at full strength to battle England, while you move up your troops into position behind me. If I do well, I may earn the right to keep 4 while you wrap up 18. If I do poorly, you'll still be right there to pick off the undefended rear SC's.
My troops are on the front line, and can hold it for you until your fleets are built and reach it. Think about it.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: AH, hit Peadmont again, if you can. And think about leaving Tunis for just one year, while you move fleets up. it will be worth your while.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: Dude, I didn't move to Marseilles to take it. You're hilarious. You think I'm out to get you, and because of that, you are going to hand AH the game.

I moved into Piedmont because, well...let me see...ALL OF YOUR UNITS WERE POORLY ALLOCATED. Tell me, what other unit did you have that could have occupied Piedmont, without moving Tus-Pie?

And the Army in Edi was solely so I could convoy to StPt if Austria took it.

You're obviously a giant cockmunching conspiracy theorist, or the type of person that sees Jesus on toast, because you're reading way too much shit into this.

Besides, I work all day, and don't have time to make 4 paragraph rants 3 times a day; the fact I didn't coordinate with Russia was my bad, but how was I to know he wasn't gonna hold?

So, either way. Do what you want to, but I'm just gonna hand AH the win if you even try anything. And the sad thing is, we could still force the draw.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: But, if you're gonna be pissy, show me what you got. I dare you to do as much damage to me as possible.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sure... Russia can't take back St. Pete with armies in finland and norway...so you're going to convoy an Edinburgh army to retake a Russian home city, rather than simply support the Russian attack with the barents sea fleet. Why don't you build a bridge that you can sell him, at the same time? (hoping your job that you work at all day isn't as an attorney, because that's one of the weakest arguments I've heard in a long time :)
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: Yeah, Russia couldn't take it back if it happened to be Autumn and he had to disband a unit.

You have no concept of any sort of delaying strategy. Russia could care a fuck less whether he has 5 SC's or 4; all we need to do -- and our ONLY goal is to stop up AH. My army in St.Pt with my fleet behind it and Russia to support would have been better than Russia's lone army in there with no chance of a build.

I am an attorney; you're just a dumbass.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: But, whatever. I'm gonna help Russia out as much as I can, but you can go fuck yourself.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: I mean, think about the ridiculous proposition you're putting forward -- that I let a weak power with no possibility of a build take and hold onto a position that I am far more able to support, defend and make use of WITHOUT having to communicate this over public press?

I wasn't gonna take it from Russia; but if Austria had taken it (which he should have, given that he had 2 units on it, and Russia had one), I was gonna go in and take control for myself. You forget that you're asking me to help stop Austria, but unless I got St.Pt or Pie, I CAN'T DO FUCK ALL ABOUT AUSTRIA.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: So, Austria, as of now, you have my 100% support in winning so long as you take all of Italy's territory and don't let him get the survival. Ease up on Russia, and I will get you into every last Italian outpost. A player that completely oblivious doesn't deserve the survival.
17 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: Hey guys, I'm still here...and I kinda thought the sc's balanced out nicely. In fact, why don't Italy and Turkey go into CD and then England and Russia's combined 14 sc's take on Austria's 14 sc's. I would rather not see an Austrian victory, especially seeing as how England and I are just a season away from actually enhancing our combat lines. That being said, if you want to spoil it Italy, I will be rather disappointed. Right now, Italy, you're going to come out of it worse than how you started, and you are going to be further chopped up if you want an Austrian victory. It still is in our collective best interests to keep alive.
18 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: I was completely with you (even not taking Brest) and pitching a unified defense until England invaded Marseille. Sorry, in my book, if you are allies, you cooperate with people, you don't simply take their SC's and F-bomb them.

When he took Marseille despite my protests, he sealed this game.
18 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: On the flip side, AH could have taken Tunis, but he had the good strategic sense to leave it (for now) and employ Italians as his front line. Contrast that with England, who took Marseille
18 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: AH, your fleet in WMed would provide support for MAO until other fleets reach the area. He can't afford to kick me from MAO or I'll end up in Irish and take Liverpool. Strategically, you will probably have to take Marseille (though I may attempt it this turn), but when you do, I will be able to evap my Lyons fleet as your fleets will be arriving, so going down to 3 will not be an issue. The Lyons fleet may even be able to convoy Tusc to Marseille, so you might make sure to put Venice into Pied rather than Tusc.
18 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sorry, I wasn't gonna not get anything out of the deal when you were clearly stabbing me. You sealed your own fate when you acted like a whiny little bitch and made unreasonable demands on a clearly superior power.
19 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1907: "clearly superior power" that says it all.
19 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1907: Can't wait to find out who you are, so I can avoid you as much as possible. I don't avoid people who stab, or who are assholes; I just avoid people who are idiots or entirely unreasonable.
19 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Gosh, the "clearly superior power" lost an army in Marseilles.

Austria, if you can afford the delay, you might hold off running Pied to Marseille this turn so that we can keep my fleet alive one more year. We'll need all the firepower we can to push him back out of MAO and your fleets aren't there yet. And we can run Pied through Marseille in the spring, and then if you feel appropriate, collect it with Tusc.
19 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: didn't see that pesky Burg army - you may have diff directions now :)

By the way, the beaches in Picardy are fabulous in the Autumn, even better than in southern france...
19 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Italy, you really are a fool. Austria can win this turn, and it's all thanks to you. So really, congrats, you didn't do a damn thing for anyone other than yourself and you have managed to lose your entire homeland to your "friend." Well played.
19 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: well played, austria.
19 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Thank you.
19 Sep 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Yeah, Austria gets mad props for capitalizing on an oversensitive whining Italy.

Italy is my favorite nation to play, and whoever you are, you sorely misplayed your position.
21 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1908: I wondered whether Turkey will see this option or not. He did. Turkey, excellent game.
21 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1908: Thank you, Austria. I knew the final loss was inevitable, but I wanted to see how long I could hold out. The fact that you had to end up committing 2 armies and 2 fleets just to subdue the remainder of my homeland gives me great pleasure.
21 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1908: It would have been worth something too, if it weren't for those meddling English/Italians. (Seriously guys, wtf? Was the petty squabble worth it?)
21 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1908: Yes, I couldn't risk you getting a build, so I took the risk-less option, although it makes the game a year longer.

If we are all here, we could finalize. I really want to see who are you people.
21 Sep 10 UTC Spring, 1908: Ah, one last gamble didn't pay off. I figured as much, there were too many variables in your possible moves that time.
21 Sep 10 UTC Yeah, not my fault.
21 Sep 10 UTC F'ing Italy. How does that make sense, huh? Not my fault he had 3 units way far away from the Austrian front, yet flipped his shit when I wanted to push my units to the front.
21 Sep 10 UTC I'm just really interested to see who everyone is
21 Sep 10 UTC Me too. I am putting Italy on my shit list, and that list is very short
21 Sep 10 UTC I think I know who Italy is.
21 Sep 10 UTC Austria, would you find it in your heart to leave me an SC so that I can grab a survive? Its wouldn't be much, but I'd appreciate it
21 Sep 10 UTC Who is it? And who am I? Let's guess, since the end is inevitable
21 Sep 10 UTC Turkey, NP.
21 Sep 10 UTC Just hold Syria where it is now...
21 Sep 10 UTC I don't know who are the players here.
21 Sep 10 UTC Actually... If Italy helps England to Marseilles, I will lose Spain, without getting Marseilles. Hrm.
21 Sep 10 UTC Sorry Turkey. I need both your SCs, because if I lose Spain without getting Marseilles, and get only Constantinople, I will be at 17.
21 Sep 10 UTC I knew I had to press forward over the stalemate line before I eliminate Turkey, this is why you survived for so long. Look at Spring 1905.
21 Sep 10 UTC HAHA, no shit. Congrats, Bask, you can thank svenson for your win. What a dick.
21 Sep 10 UTC good game, all.

By the way, I'm not Svenson, I'm a sitter. Who still wouldn't trust England as far as I could throw him.
21 Sep 10 UTC GG all :)

And I would've probably won even without the help... But, who knows.
22 Sep 10 UTC Good game all around.

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Baskineli (100 D (B))
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 70 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
Survived. Bet: 10 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
TsarNicky (231 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
svenson (106 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
1 supply-centers, 2 units
spitfire8125 (189 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
0 supply-centers, 1 units
Fresno Bob (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
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