Finished: 09 PM Thu 15 Apr 21 UTC
Lets Get it on-2
1 day /phase
Pot: 140 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by ThaHunters (1342 D)
24 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1906: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
14 Apr 21 UTC GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
15 Apr 21 UTC Sorry for the mess up on orders at the end there, folks. Serves me right for doing it too late at night - I should have supported Tuscany to Venice rather than Piedmont, which would possibly have held things in the south.

That said, England continuing to attack Germany in the north prevented an effective stalemate line being formed there, so I'm not taking all the blame ;)

Well played to ThaHunters, and a solid defence put up by anlari - I think if either England or Germany had taken a crack at Brest/Paris I could have broken though, but as it was I just couldn't seem to grind out that extra centre I needed to overrun you and consolidate my position!

All the best to everyone, and hope to play with you again in the future. :)
15 Apr 21 UTC Good game to all.
Thank you Italy for the alliance which sort of held untill the end of the game. I feared the stab from you throughout the game which made my advance against Russia and Turkey slow.
I agree with you Italy that the english stab on germany, and the german response to that secured my victory
15 Apr 21 UTC Wasn’t original England. Just came in to help finish up a lost game
15 Apr 21 UTC Okay, whichever English player made the stab in Spring 1910 sealed the game
15 Apr 21 UTC I could tell pretty early the England player was new and didn’t know what was going on - they constantly threatened me and were taking centers like an idiot.

After I lost Berlin, France destroying his army in Burgundy was also stupid - it made it so Munich would fall as well.

Overall - the game started good, but disappointing because a new player didn’t realize that the game was going to end and France was too busy reclaiming his own territory and hurt Italy’s response to Austria
15 Apr 21 UTC Since Germany is throwing stones in every direction, let me put in my two words too :)

From my perspective, up until Spring 1911, it looked like Italy was doing exactly what England was doing - obsessing with attacking me throughout the whole game while leaving everything wide open to an Austria that was heading to solo.

Italy did turn back in Autumn 1910 but there was no draw vote or signal of this for me, so I don't think how my order to Spain in that same turn puts me at fault. After this happened, I didn't pursue Italy anymore and immediately started doing my best for a stalemate. This included a fleet in Brest to harass England and hopefully get them off Germany's back. The army in Gas was also ready to step in at Burgundy once it is vacated, but I didn't order a move there out of fear of breaking Germany's supports. Taking Mar back was actually not intended - it was an attempt to bounce Austria out, which I was worried Austria could predict, but still did not want to risk giving Mar to Austria when so close to 18 SCs.

I think we would have had a far better chance of establishing a stalemate, even with England being irrational, had (i) Italy woken up a year or so later, (ii) Germany hadn't just given up Berlin and SPT in 1910 and then disbanded in Kiel and Baltic?! I had 3 fleets to harass England - Ger should have stuck to the stalemate line.
15 Apr 21 UTC GG all, was interesting to see the game unfold even though I was dead for most of it. The moment I saw that I got Russia I knew I almost certainly won't last very long...
15 Apr 21 UTC I think there's sometimes a temptation with Gunboat to assume that everyone looking at the board can see things the same way - where it may seem obvious to one player that a course of action is needed, the lack of communication can make it feel impossible.

For my part, I'd begun to have concerns about Austria years before I turned east in opposition. I delayed because on the one hand, overrunning France both felt close and would give me units back at home to resist any Austrian push while, on the other, turning back would see me both telegraphing my intentions to Austria from a mile away and give France the opportunity to recover and hit me from behind.

I think I was a little complacent, as I did not predict either StP or Germany's home centres falling, assuming wrongly that England would let Germany defend the line - if I had been able to break France, I could have secured a place on the other side of the stalemate line too. Even when StP was lost, I was hoping to hold onto Tunis to even things out.

Interesting to hear from other perspectives, though!
15 Apr 21 UTC @France - I honestly gave up after 1910. England was going to ruin the stalemate line and I wasn’t in the mood to drag this out.
15 Apr 21 UTC I was equally pissed at myself when I didn’t support move to Berlin in S1909 :/

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ThaHunters (1342 D)
Won. Bet: 20 D, won: 140 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
SDSUPinoy (218 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
anlari (8640 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
rodtheworm (227 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
worcej (1106 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
3 supply-centers, 5 units
limited (4 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
JRoz (96 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
Noirre (100 D)England (Autumn, 1912) with 4 centres.
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