Finished: 08 AM Sat 13 Feb 21 UTC
Catch 22
1 day /phase
Pot: 154 D - Spring, 1906, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
21 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1901: Greetings everybody, have fun
21 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1901: Greetings the same to you!
22 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: Greetings all!
What happened England?
23 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
24 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
24 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: Brexit queues ... been a nightmare getting the paperwork for the units to get off of the mainland. All in order now
26 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
26 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: My god, we’ll never get this game done
27 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
27 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: This is getting silly. Should we cancel?
27 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: I’m for that, this is pointless
27 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: my draw and cancel votes are in.
27 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1901: New France.
31 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1902: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
31 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1902: oops, didn't know we were drawing...
31 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1902: I don’t think we are any longer, since all players are here now
31 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1902: When I entered the game as a replacement, some of the starting players wanted to finish the game. Therefore I voted to draw. If the game continues, okay.
Germany, not all players voted for a draw, so please do not forget your orders.
31 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1902: Thanks, France. I've readied mine. I just want to rock the boat, thus I'm leaving my draw vote down, and let the initial players decide.
31 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1902: * just DON'T want to rock the boat.
31 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1902: Sorry, when I wrote my message, I did not realize, that there is a new Germany.
03 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1903: Usually ganging up on me happens in non-anon games. I wonder what triggered this eruption of euphoria for my centres this time... Turkey, why are you not joining the bandwagon?
12 Feb 21 UTC Thanks good game all!
12 Feb 21 UTC Austria, I did not like the backstab but now all is forgiven.
12 Feb 21 UTC Fun game folks, nice counter alliance by EFR
12 Feb 21 UTC A 5-way draw in 1906? The feeling of disappointment fills up my heart. Had I bet, I would have felt robbed.
12 Feb 21 UTC @G: I tried really hard to whittle it down to 4, but England wouldn't budge.
12 Feb 21 UTC @EFR - very nice counter-alliance
12 Feb 21 UTC @R - Italy said early on that you had talked to him about eliminating me, so I was very suspicious of that, and worried about your initial surge. Turkey was showing commitment to the anti-russian alliance, and good direction, but the lack of a fleet drew Italy's interest, and as long as he's thinking about taking out Turkey, he's not thinking about taking out me, so I felt I had little choice but to play along with the Lepanto. After that, the chance of an IR was so strong, so I needed to convince Russia that there were easier pickings than me. That was Germany, who was being attacked by EF.
12 Feb 21 UTC I understand your suspicion initially Austria. But did you have to take Rumania? Was their not a possibility of a 3-way draw with AIR at some point?
12 Feb 21 UTC And England, very grateful that you had my back. Would have understood if you had taken my centers in Scandinavia.
12 Feb 21 UTC Old Germany never replied to messages. So the English-French cooperation started. Which was a good thing, because otherwise Italy could have launched a successful attack on me.
Good job of Austria and Italy. Thanks to England and Russia for our good cooperation.
12 Feb 21 UTC Yeah England came to your aid in the nick of time. Quite a bummer to be honest, all that careful planning, rushing east and west again only to arrive at the same old stalemate line.
Oh well :)
12 Feb 21 UTC Oh well, that's the price of jumping into the middle of the game. I did speak to both of you, France and England, but the plan was read at that moment.
12 Feb 21 UTC @R - I did have to take Rumania - if I hadn't you would have been even more powerful than before, with a more powerful Italy, but now with no Turkey or Germany to offset you. In addition, I needed the build to offset the possible stab by Italy. I was genuinely surprised when Italy didn't double-dot me that turn.
12 Feb 21 UTC @England - had this been a sum-of-squares game, would you have taken Scandanavia?
05 Mar 21 UTC Sorry for not responding earlier all

I don't think the type of scoring changed my play here. I believe I had my draw vote up for a while and didn't fully reconsider it. I wasn't really interested in whittling the draw down though so as much as I could have taken Den and Norway immediately and then the rest from there it didn't feel like it was going to achieve anything more than one person left in the draw.

If I was going to move anywhere it would have been against France. I think this could have lead to a change in the dynamic if the south which was more important to me than reducing the number of players left.
05 Mar 21 UTC Interesting that you say that, because most of my pitch was "I can only go so far if you stab Russia, so that's safe for you, but if you stab France, who knows how far Italy will get" which seemed plainly true. I wouldn't have guessed that the riskier action was more appealing to you. Live and learn.
05 Mar 21 UTC I agree that stabbing Russia would have been safer, there just wasn't any real achievement to it imo. There was also a risk of Russia supporting you into Berlin in an attempt to help you solo

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Austria
missingumlaut (474 D)
Drawn. Bet: 22 D, won: 31 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
England
Talby2 (285 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 31 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 22 D, won: 31 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
France
groundhog (979 D)
Drawn. Bet: 0 D, won: 31 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Russia
Dr Jam (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 22 D, won: 31 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Germany
Szpoti (1766 D Mod)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Turkey
Defeated. Bet: 22 D
Civil Disorders
krutapa (100 D)France (Autumn, 1901) with 5 centres.
GarlicJack17 (100 D)England (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
Itz_AJ (100 D)Germany (Autumn, 1902) with 5 centres.
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