Finished: 12 PM Sun 22 Nov 20 UTC
1day/phase classic game
1 day /phase
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Bulutus_Pescatore (298 D)
23 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1906: It was Marseilles, I ordered it to Marseilles.
23 Oct 20 UTC Spring, 1906: The British Admiral will have to give me his resignation letter.
27 Oct 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
27 Oct 20 UTC Autumn, 1906: Was busy sorry
01 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1907: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Ok everything is in place on the stalemate line. The most you’ll get are st p and Munich.

Let’s draw this game
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I’ve entered I. My draw vote
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: You = England
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I’ve entered my draw vote
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I apologize to all that I’ve done wrong to this game. It has been a fun game and I learned a lot from all of you being this is only my third game
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: If we are going to draw it should be between the three of us. I understand that a solo probably isn't feasible at this point but I can't see a reason why we should include Russia and Turkey in the draw.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: A bit hurtful there England. I thought I helped
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Just joking
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: This draw is only doable with cooperation from Austria, Turkey, russia, and Italy. I’ve done enough stabbing and gotten enough backstabbing this game. It’s the most fair we can be all participated.
You’ve turned on Russia, France, and me in this game.
I’ve turned on Russia and turkey
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I’m ok with the outcome.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Nothing personal against you Russia, really. I'm annoyed that you chose to stop me but I think I kinda understand why you did so and respect your decision at any rate.

This is about maximizing my gains, now that a solo seems largely unfeasible.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I'm not. You could kill Russia and Turkey and still hold the stalemate line. Sure it may take some time but I'm willing to wait.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Hi England, no offense taken.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: England turned on me too, just saying.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Yeah, I stabbed: Germany, France, Russia and Italy this game, in that order.

This has certainly been one of my stabbier games.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Wow, this must have been a fun game had I joined from the beginning.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Germany, oh sorry about the missing you from the list.
My apology. Sorry england and I wiped you out at Berlin.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I’m at pacific standard time zone here. I thought I’m an early bird. I guess people are from all over the world then.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: It's 5 pm over here now
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: GMT-5
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: It’s 9 am here
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Nice to have played with you all.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I think you missed the part where I'm still not agreeing to the draw as things are Italy. The game isn't over yet.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: I’m not going to turn on Russia or turkey now. Both austria and I need our armies and fleets at the front line. You are missing an army to fully lock us in, true, but it’s too much risk.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Also, I really appreciate the fact that Russia and turkey are willing to forgo the history and help out, so no, we cannot turn on them
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: In that case I'd rather fight a bit longer and see if I can force you to drop at least one of them out of the draw count. You clearly won't be turning on them willingly after all.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: ok here we go.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Oh england just to be fair, if you insist on going, we will try to push forward and see if we can take you out.
You are few units short and out of place to hold that line.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Why go for a draw if you can take me out? I really don't know the ins and outs of the stalemate line we are fighting over so I can't say whether you're right or wrong.

What you said comes off as a bluff if I go only by my gut, which is for sure not the most reliable thing in the world.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: This doesn't really have much to do with the current discussion by the way but I do wonder: do you and Austria know each other in real life?

I got the feeling it could be the case after you snaked around their centers to fight both Russia and Turkey. Didn't seem like the trust you build up with a stranger in a few years of gameplay at least.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: This is what I learned so far
1. Solo win require everyone to participate. So, wiping you out is difficult. Draw is much easier.
2. I do not know austria in real life. I just agreed to a long term alliance and stick with it. He and I turn out to trust each other the whole game. I guess we just happen to like each other.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: It's a very rare thing indeed for that to happen. Still seems weird to me that Austria let you snake all around their centers like that but I guess it worked out for them in the end, which is all that matters.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: It will be evident whether or not I'll be able to force you to drop the draw count further by next year's end.

If I'm not able to progress at all by then I'll be good with a draw.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: England, by the way, I do not dislike you. I think you are a really good player and someone i learned a few things from. So, however it goes, I enjoyed playing with and then against you. The same goes for everyone in this game.
08 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Same goes for you. I am certainly annoyed that you stopped me from a solo and being outplayed by your rival sucks as usual. But that certainly doesn't extend into a personal grudge or dislike.
10 Nov 20 UTC Spring, 1910: Sorry I haven’t seen messages these days.
Yeah, I don’t know Italy in real life.
I think I and he live in different country. I had played diplomacy few times when this game started.
So Italy, who gave me a logical good opinion is very important for me.
16 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1911: Awww. Turkey ruined the fun
16 Nov 20 UTC Autumn, 1911: You have my condolences Russia, you played a good game despite the unenviable position you inherited.
20 Nov 20 UTC That’s a wrap. Sure proves the old adage that the best alliances are forged by shared prosperity. If the spoils of victory aren’t mutual, you probably don’t have a strong alliance.
20 Nov 20 UTC Good game people, it was an interesting one for sure!
21 Nov 20 UTC GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
21 Nov 20 UTC Hi guys. Just doing my good deed for the day and getting the game finished for you England :)
21 Nov 20 UTC Thanks for the good deed Uthred :)
21 Nov 20 UTC No worries, glad to help

Very good win by the look of it
21 Nov 20 UTC Don’t know why turkey is so happy for just throwing a win England’s way. Oh well, c’est la vie

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

England
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 35 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
Turkey
GreggH (420 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
9 supply-centers, 6 units
Italy
Survived. Bet: 5 D
4 supply-centers, 5 units
Austria
Uhtred II (240 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
2 supply-centers, 6 units
Germany
Hithlum (142 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
France
ajptaylor (133 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
DoubtingThomas (100 D)Russia (Autumn, 1907) with 2 centres.
Taro (100 D)Austria (Autumn, 1912) with 2 centres.
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