Finished: 12 AM Sat 20 Mar 21 UTC
Private August GR Challenge G4 - NEW
2 days /phase
Pot: 35 D - Spring, 1916, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1907: I've put my unpause vote in
04 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1907: Happy New year all
05 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1907: Happy New Year everyone. I've voted to unpause.
08 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1907: oh i see i was the one who didn't vote to unpause yet, i thought i had! I'm sorry everyone!
09 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1907: Wah! Welcome back all!
10 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1907: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
15 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1907: Just publicly admitting to all my partners, with whom I have been equally duplicitous all game, that I think I have an anarchic streak as far as this game goes. Definitely not my ordinary play style, and to my three neighbours, several turns of "I am sorry for being a shit."
20 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1907: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
23 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1908: Friends, I put my draw vote up because there's little to no press in this game (and I've received more "well I just want to focus on my other games" than I think is reasonable).
24 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: My draw vote is up.. I am not sure when it went up but has been there for a while. I am still taking interest in this game though
24 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: I get the sentiment. Willing to see where it goes, out of some interest sake, but if it ended now...I would not be upset. Some games are like that.
25 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: I prefer to draw right now ;)
25 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: My draw has been up for years.
25 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm willing to work towards a draw but not yet. It would all feel like a bit of a waste of time if this ended in a 7 way draw.
25 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
26 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: I’ve put a pause up .. as much as all the stop starts we’ve had have killed the momentum I’d also rather not play with an absent country
26 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: My pause vote is up as well
26 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: This is frustrating. I definitely put in orders. Probably I didn't hit save or something?
26 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: Sorry, everyone.
28 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: Italy my friend, i still hate you for stabbing me :(
But i enjoyed playing!
29 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: Thanks Turkey!

So, I'm going to put this here instead of writing it out once to everyone-

We're in a position where the rest of the game is either draw whittling or stopping an Austrian solo. Austria tells me that he'd be happy to draw once England, Italy and Russia are eliminated. If Austria is sensible, I'm sure that you're all getting some other version of the final split.

However, I think Austria is too close to the stalemate line for us to safely eliminate anyone. I also think that we can easily stop Austria's growth if we work together.

Austria also says that he wants to stop playing this game (which doesn't fit with "but I won't draw yet", so I mean, you decide what his real motives are for continuing).

I'm happy to draw the game here - I don't see any need to eliminate anyone. But, I do think we need to be aware of the risk if we move away from the stalemate line. What do you all think? Who else would be happy to draw here?
29 Jan 21 UTC Autumn, 1908: Thanks France.
30 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: As I'm sure everyone on the board already knows France is a liar and is willing to lie as much as he needs to get his way. As I've said multiple times I have no interest in a solo win, I did in November/December but not anymore. I also have no interest in taking out Italy. If I did I wouldn't have allowed him to take all 3 of Turkey's SCs.
30 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: Hahahahaha!
30 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: Anyway, I think everyone else can decide whether or not I'm lying about "we should probably not let Austria get any more centres".
30 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: Austria + Italy: 17 nearest of a solo
31 Jan 21 UTC Spring, 1909: As we are waiting through this, I am waiting to hear from Austria around a suitable DMZ that satisfies both of our needs. My moves this turn should reflect that a) we've agreed or b) we haven't.

And I've played too much public press lately. :)
01 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1909: Lol sorry I'll reply to you now Italy. My city just went back into Covid lockdown last night so Diplomacy wasn't on my mind yesterday. Western Australia did get close to 10 months without any Covid community transmission so I guess we were due for it sometime soon...
01 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1909: Ah, shit!!! Christ. Alright, be safe. Take a pause if needed.
01 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1909: I'm fine, won't need a pause. It was just a bit of a mad scramble to get everything sorted before the lockdown and find out what my work arrangements would be. Luckily it's only a 5 day lockdown for now anyway.
09 Feb 21 UTC Autumn, 1910: I like how you're all buying in to the "I will sit here and wait for the draw as long as you eliminate the others".
17 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Friends, I'm giving up on this game. No one is sending actual diplomacy press or paying attention to the board. Everyone is saying they want the game to end for out-of-game reasons- last time I read the site rules, this wasn't allowed.

Pretty disappointed. I'm going to congratulate Austria on the solo, in the hopes that stubborness will prevent them going for it.

Entering all holds this turn.
17 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Also, F Nap is definitely the funniest build all game.
17 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1912: My draw vote is still in, and I'd be happy to consider other resolutions too.

I came here to play diplomacy. I don't mind being on the receiving end of "look I'm going with the other guy", but that doesn't seem to be what's happening here. If everyone's narrative is going to be "look I don't care about this game and I'm not really playing", then I'm not interested in continuing.
17 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1912: I am obviously not party to all of your press but I will say that I don't think that is a fair assessment of our messages together
18 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1912: Is it not? Your last few messages are complaining about others not playing.
18 Feb 21 UTC Spring, 1912: I mean we’ve spoken about the rest of the board and how nothing much is happening. I don’t think I said I don’t care and that I’m not playing or that I want it to end for out of game reasons
04 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1913: France and England, thanks for playing. ATC, I totally get your perspective. This was not the game you were hoping for when you originally signed on, and I have to give you credit for really trying to mix it up.
05 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1913: You mean "play a game of diplomacy"? :P
05 Mar 21 UTC Autumn, 1913: Well, kind of...?
07 Mar 21 UTC Spring, 1914: Alright...who has their draws up?
07 Mar 21 UTC Spring, 1914: My draw vote is up.
08 Mar 21 UTC Spring, 1914: So is mine
08 Mar 21 UTC Spring, 1914: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
08 Mar 21 UTC Spring, 1914: That was me; sorry about that. Thought I had time today.
08 Mar 21 UTC Spring, 1914: Hate doing that to my RR.
18 Mar 21 UTC My draw vote is now up. Seems like we are waiting on someone else!
18 Mar 21 UTC Looks like my draw vote was the last one remaining. Good game everyone.
18 Mar 21 UTC I'll be rooting for those of you who are participating in the public press GR challenge!
18 Mar 21 UTC Wow.

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Germany
HdB (133 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Austria
JRoz (92 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
12 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 12 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
England
josemurc (29758 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
France
A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Russia
Talby2 (114 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
tobieee911 (102 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Civil Disorders
gryncat (2606 D)France (Spring, 1906) with 4 centres.
webDipDummy04 (100 D)France (Spring, 1906) with 4 centres.
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