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Pot: 140 D - Autumn, 1911, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
2 excused missed turn
Game drawn
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Anyone want to fight England? You can have EVERYTHING of mine.
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Ooh, I volunteer. In return for your supply centers I promise to invade London and beat that nasty English guy to a pulp.
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Italy, if Germany is sincere it seems like your strategy of being trustworthy and competent might have paid off. Pity the exact same strategy didn't work out for Austria or Germany. Their allies didn't live up to the same standards.
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1908: Of course, if Germany is serious about their offer, they'll disband Gascony and Tyrolia. Let's see if that actually happens.
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: If u serious Germany move to Liv and help me take st petes
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Or if u need to keep Berlin I'll just get it
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Doesn't appear that anyone is in an alliance any more, just a 4 way slugfest.
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Italy, I'm going to support hold your army in Trieste.
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: thx, supporting you in vienna as well. at least some folks are loyal ;)
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: @Turkey: England will probably the lion's share of the German leftovers. I propose a truce between us, else he might win
@Germany: it will be tough for you from here on, but I will not attack you, you can focus fully on engaging England on your home soil
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Turkey - will happily help you take St.Pete
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: But do you need the help? I’ll be more useful keeping England out of Germany
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Ya Germany I can get st petes on my own. U should just try and keep England off your case for now
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Italy, we can do a truce for now. Better to use our armies elsewhere for now
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Ok, you got it
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: (Less worried about your armies than about your fleets, btw. So appreciate them staying where they are / Alb can move to Greece, no problem)
19 May 20 UTC Spring, 1909: Ya sorry I said armies but I meant all units. Definitely will save to some stress to not worry about Greece
19 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1909: Ya sorry, but Smyrna is not a unit? ;)
20 May 20 UTC Spring, 1910: Alright, this has quickly turned into a game where Turkey becomes seemingly unstoppable. I will therefore need to move fleets eastward. England, I therefore kindly ask you to leave the MAO a DMZ. I will disband my fleet there this fall. We need to both work closely together if we want to stop Turkey
20 May 20 UTC Spring, 1910: @Austria: please retreat to Bohemia, I go to Tyrolia
20 May 20 UTC Spring, 1910: Germany and I are out of the equation
20 May 20 UTC Spring, 1910: Go Turkey!!
20 May 20 UTC Spring, 1910: Italy, agreed. Not sure we can stop Turkey if Germany wants to throw to them though.
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Italy, just making explicit that my making the MAO a DMZ also means I'm not going to bump you in Marseilles, and you're not going to bump me in Paris?
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Actually, scratch that Italy. I'm not defending Paris and I explicitly invite you to take it if you need the extra build. I am going to push your fleet in MAO so that you can disband it and rebuild in Naples if you have enough builds.
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Please don't move or support the unit in MAO. My unit moving there won't be in a position to do anything nasty, and will move out immediately.
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Ok, let's try that
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Yo Deutschland, u trynna let me take Berlin for the one time one time
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Hold the line Germany, and we'll call it a 4 way draw.
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: I hear that before
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: No, you heard 5 way draw before, mysterious voice from the grave. Twas not my hand that killed you.
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Germany, I understand that you have all the reasons to hate England. But are you really one of those players who rather lose as long as your enemies lose too? I hope you come to reason and join us... (it might be too late already)
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: @England: only your suggestion
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: I don't think that Turkey bought into the whole England/Turkey Alliance
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Didn't buy into the Austria/Turkey alliance either.
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Good game, my time is over.
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Italy - fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
21 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Fool me three times, fuq the peace sign. Load the choppers. Let it rain on you.
22 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Germany, I'm not sure Turkey is actually offering you anything. So your choice is to throw the game to Turkey, or take a chance on the draw. At this point if Italy or I tried to eliminate you it would just have the same result as you throwing the game to Turkey.
22 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Italy:
Unless Germany wants to co-operate, Turkey needs 5 more supplies to win. That means we can afford to lose all three German centres + Trieste, but no more. I can hold my side of the line, so long as I don't have any unexpected disbands. Happy to negotiate swaps though, so please concentrate on holding the Ionian and Venice rather than holding Trieste or gaining supplies.
22 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: If Germany does decide to co-operate, Turkey can't get through, so it's game over right now.
22 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: I vote draw
22 May 20 UTC Autumn, 1910: Turkey? At this stage I think it's safe to say that neither Italy nor I are on board with eliminating Germany to narrow the draw. Best case in the next moves is you lose St Petersburg, and gain Trieste. You're not going to make it to 18.

Vote draw right now, and Austria gets included, which I think is fair. Wait for moves to resolve, then vote draw, and it's 4 way. Beyond that we're just slugging it out for nothing.
22 May 20 UTC Spring, 1911: Italy, please leave Brest alone in Spring, but please keep Paris somewhere it can grab Brest if it needs to. After Spring moves we can decide who most needs and can make best use of the build.

Germany, if you're up for co-operation, please move Ruhr to Munich, and let me move into Ruhr behind you. This should create an unbreakable barrier (from both directions, so you won't need to worry about a stab).

I recommend Berlin to Silesia and Kiel to Berlin, but I understand you might be less trusting about those moves. Don't tell me what you're doing. I'm going to be moving into Denmark, so don't be tempted about that one.
22 May 20 UTC "Quit while you're ahead"
22 May 20 UTC Damn, just as I was about to move armies to your heartland ;) But the draw is a fair result, no complaints! Well played Turkey, a little more coordination from us and it might have worked out
22 May 20 UTC Good game
22 May 20 UTC Ya this is only like my fourth game playing, and I believe I understand how to defend land but I clearly need to work on my sea defense skills haha
22 May 20 UTC Good game all.
23 May 20 UTC Good game

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Turkey
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 35 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
England
Dioptre (201 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 35 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Italy
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 35 D
9 supply-centers, 8 units
Germany
georgekcheung (116 D)
Drawn. Bet: 20 D, won: 35 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
France
Strelitzia (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Austria
Gishsteele (231 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Russia
Morose (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
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