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Finished: 08 AM Thu 03 Jun 10 UTC
Rise of Empires-3
14 hours /phase
Pot: 100 D - Autumn, 9, Finished
The Ancient Mediterranean, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by syphilis (193 D)
22 May 10 UTC Spring, 4: Of course I know. But when a back-stab occurs, I don't feel bad about making it public. I'm not sure why anyone is surprised that global chat can be used for diplomacy, too. such as, "Hey, watch out for X..."

Again...as a result of my public tirade, I received a lot of information out of Egypt in private chat....some of it about you and his plans for you, Greece. So...I think I have a handle on thing. k?
22 May 10 UTC Spring, 4: By the same token, there is something seriously wrong in the picture of all of you people think the ONLY way to win is deceit and backstabbing. Believe it or not, you can maintain integrity, not lie, and still win. At least back in my pen and paper days...but the internet does seem to be just one big old lie-fest. Kind of sad, because I don't think lying anonymously over the internet takes a lot of talent. NOT lying and winning...takes more skill.
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: and now that Rome is out, this is just a waste of time...have fun while i let the clock run out on the rest of my turns.
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: Classy.
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: Let's see....You and Carthage have an alliance, Greece is out, Rome is inactive....So i should stay in why?

I don't think you have much class, either, so...big deal. I guess you need to fight your roommate now.
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: You guys have an alliance that isn't based upon anything strategic other than that before the game started, you agreed to cooperate. When Carthage had the absolute ability to fuck you through the back door -- (and remember, according to you backstabbing is what the game is about) -- he didn't. So it isn't about you guys winning....it's about winning together. So why should I continue to play? This isn't diplomacy...it's just gang warfare. Not much fun. but you'll get your dip points, so what do you care? I'm sure that's what it's about for you anyway.

So now you and roomy might have to fight....but you won't. Guarantee it - you never intended to. you've played for the friendship draw from the beginning.
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: Carthage's last message to me: "Anyhow, were in this game for a while now and we dont know anything about each other. Like, were are we from, hobbies and funny things about our cultures. Im from ******, its in ******. Funny thing is, that when things are good for us, all we do is argue and scratch each others eyes, but when were endangered, eg war, cataclysm or whatever, we end that shitty argues and face the troubles to overcome them. And later on start arguing again. Sad thing is that communism ruined us mentally and we have great deal of trouble trusting other people, expecting them to screw us at first occasion. What about you?"

Really sounds like we're great pals. I guess I'm just so antisocial I don't know anything about my long-time roommate. I don't even know who you're trying to convince anymore.
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: I have no idea what you are talking about, and frankly i don't care. You two have an alliance and have been non-hostile the entire game. Just a lucky alliance, or planning ahead of time....whatever. Rome isn't playing, you two have never attacked each other other than trading one country, greece is out. I could really give a shit.

Carthage KNOWS Rome is dead and instead of coming south with his navies to fuck the guy that will be his biggest ally and try for the win, he doesn't.

so what is the fucking point in playing this game with you two? Have a nice draw. It's pretty fucking easy to get a draw with your partner...so enjoy it.
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: So you're essentially claim that backstabbing is a terrible and cheap thing to do then get mad at Carthage for keeping an alliance? You seem to hate everything that makes the game not in your favor. I mean honestly, do you see how childish you are being? Someone backstabbed you and seemingly kept an alliance with someone else. All I can think to say is get over it. It happens. A lot.
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: I wonder where are you from, Persia? Also, like I sad, pure tactic, moving around forces is only like 10% of the game. This game is whole about strategy and diplomacy, like the name suggests. Thats why despite poor graphics and its simplicity, its so popular. Ordinary strategy games, even those with multiplayer aspect, are still more of, well strategy and tactics, not diplomacy. Like Starcraft. Sure you have allies but as soon as enemy is crippled enough you turn on the weakest allies. Friggin koreans :/
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: This add was sponosred by the webDiplomacy and NKFLBSKFSSTTCMSA "North Korea For Lets Ban South Koreans From Starcraft So That They Commit Mass Suicide Associationt"
23 May 10 UTC Autumn, 4: Oh man, if anyone here is South Korean I hope you dont get offended. Youre free to ripp of on Poles in return :)
25 May 10 UTC Autumn, 5: Uhm, well okay. I can get that issuing orders after few drink may result in something stupid, but why the hell didnt I double check them in the morning? Anyway, Perisa, proc faster :p
28 May 10 UTC Autumn, 6: Greece, if you think Egypt is gonna let you live, you are nothing more than a fool. Noone having the possibility to win, would draw with a weaker nation.
30 May 10 UTC Autumn, 7: Amazing how Greece has never tried to do ANYTHING but support Egypt from turn one. If your going to multi....at least try to make it look like your not. what a fucking ridiculous cheat you are.
30 May 10 UTC Autumn, 7: Well I don't see any reason why I wouldn't at this point. I'm not going to support a whiner and Carthage has obviously made moves against me so it seems to only make sense to support the third option does it not?
30 May 10 UTC Autumn, 7: Greece, you haven't made a move for yourself since Turn 1
30 May 10 UTC Autumn, 7: I mean...even when Rome dropped out of the game, Greece did nothing...quite incredible....
30 May 10 UTC Autumn, 7: Well two problems arose. I had a busy week and you were moving in to assault me from the East.

If that is what qualifies as "Incredible" to you then you need to get out more I'm afraid.
31 May 10 UTC Autumn, 7: "I had a busy week..." Then why did you join a 14 hour game, you dillweed? Idiots like you are part of what make this game suck sometimes. But regardless of your "busy week", you've never made a move in this game that wasn't in support of Egypt. You're either a patsy or a multi...either way, dillweed.
31 May 10 UTC Autumn, 7: You know I worry about you Persia. I feel you may have some anger issues you need to deal with. Is it abandonment issues? I'm unsure. Either way, these stressful online games are surely not helping. Seek assistance soon friend. Carthage, Egypt, I know you are reading this. Back me up here. Aren't we all worried about Persia? We worry because we care.
31 May 10 UTC Autumn, 7: I too am distressed by our poor Persia friend. He just seems unable to cope with the stresses of modern life. Don't be ashamed, Persia, it is not uncommon in this day and age.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: No....my issue is with assholes and cheats and people that do things like join a game knowing it has a certain implied commitment that just don't give a shit about other people. If you weren't going to be able to to play...don't join, or get a fucking sitter. It's pretty fucking simple. Half the game I play on here end up having some asshole like Greece and Rome drop out of the game. I could really care less about the opinion of you two multi's/girlfriends/whatever... I'm worried about you, Greece, because at best you are a small-minded patsy that just does whatever you are told, at worst you are a cheat along with Egypt. I get through life honestly...doubt i can say the same for you. f there were enough decent players in this game that someone wasn't always dropping out i probably wouldn't be angry...but sadly you two assholes don't get that concept...probably college kids ...most likely self-absorbed liberals. And cheats

By the way...part of what gives away that you are cheats: The unusual naming convention....XtheyY...and the fact that you are always on within an hour of each other, Egypt first, then Greece. Your response will be then why did Greece drop out? Because you thought you had the game wrapped up, then Carthage exploded and you needed to play Greece again to provide Egypt support....certainly NOT to ever attempt to expand.

So mock away....but at least I'm not a fucking cheater. It's pretty much impossible for me to be insulted by the words of a single person with no integrity.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Well, Perisa, if you decide to stay and try to play anyway, id be most glad to play another game with you. You seem a bit unstable but a decent guy.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: I'm perhaps a little verbose at time with my thoughts....but I'm not a bad guy. Part of the "unstable" part is a stage act at times. lol Just not afraid to express my opinion and I have expectations of people. I admit I got burned in this game, but I also do think there are some shenanigans going on here. If Greece/Egypt isn't a cheat, then Greece is at least a definite loser/patsy - and I have no use for that type of person.

Oh, I'll kick it out until the end. Would be a bit hypocritical of my not to, don't you think?
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Also i wasnt really payting that much attention to the global chat. I only wanted to say that im trying to be polite towards other players and I dont mind to chit-chat at the early stages of the game, when you dont know who will you have to fight later on. But that doesnt mean im not gonna backstab the person I was having smalltalk just a moment ago. You see an opportunity, you grab it by the balls and squeze until youre the last motherfucker still standing.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Exactly Carthage. Something my friend here running Persia doesn't understand it seems. Congrats on the win by the way. I made a few key errors early on which really cost me, but to be honest I wasn't expecting a stab from you yet.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Unfortunately Persia, unlike you not everyone has so little going on in their life that nothing in their schedule ever changes. Now see, other people happen to have a life outside of the internet. Sometimes these "lives" can change and an unexpected occurrence can come up. Be it, a death in the family, a sudden workload that needs completion, or even a loss of internet connection in the case of a game like this. Either way it is worrying that, upon an explanation of my failure to commit to the game, you immediately began slinging insults around. I get the feeling that you have some deep seated issues, probably stemming from your father. Do you feel "betrayed" by your father, causing you to feel anger towards the people of this game after you had been "backstabbed"? You're not really mad at us Persia. You're mad at your father. Once you can admit to that, you'll be on the road to recovery :)

And btw, nice job pulling a "liberal" card out there. Find a way to blame them for everything I see? (fyi, I'm not a liberal)
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Wow. I wish I found this site sooner. I see i missed a lot of what internet has to offer : O
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Also, keep procesing please. Lets not wait that long.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Well Persia did say long ago that they were going to prolong the game. That's just what they are doing.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: He still manages to try to claim the moral highground though.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Well dude, if thats true than youre a dick.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Greece - sudden death in the family? ha ha ha! That's a good one. Actually, I suspect your Egypt counterself didn't need your help (his self help..er...) because Carthage looked dead, Rome was gone, etc...anyway, for all my supposed anger, you and Egypt seem AWFULLY angry! I mean you guys are really into name-calling and just making every attempt to be mean. it's kind of sad, really...And, I'll bet you are a liberal.

and, if you actually had reading skills, you would understand why I blame others for this game being so fucked up.. YOU dropping out, ROME dropping out, YOU being just a puppet for Egypt. This wasn't even close to being a competitive game. And for that matter, I ADMITTED that I fucked up early. Wouldn't have been nearly as big a blow without fucking losers like you joining a fast-paced game they couldn't commit to. (and no, nobody died in your family....that's just a bad lie...)
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Oh....but I have been told in Forums before that taking the full advantage of the clock is totally acceptable. Who knows....maybe someone will decide to try to coordinate an attack with me. So...I'm a dick for continuing to put in my pointless turns, but Greece is NOT a dick for abandoning the game and being Egypt's multi? HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! Fuck off. The fact that Greece and Egypt are irritated by my letting the clock run down just pleases the piss outta me! I NOW consider this game a personal victory.

I can not wait to hear you ANGRY reply....because I know you guys have some anger issues and can't keep in perspective that this is just a game....I mean seriously, girlfriends, it really isn't worth getting your panties all in a bunch because of some crap i write in global while I let the clock run out. I think your girlies need some psycho-therapy....SERIOUSLY....

Not try to contain your outrage when you reply...Haaaaa ha ha ha ha!!!!! (Watching clock....seeing how long it will be before the bait is taken...)
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: It really is a shame to see you fall so far Persia. You really should seek help, and soon. The only person you are hurting is yourself. I'm here for you Persia. Do you want a hug?
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Also, you do realize that no one was agitated by you letting the clock run down correct? Carthage had asked that you hurry it along a little. That was all. It appears you have created a misunderstanding in one of your violent outbursts :( I am very worried about you Persia. Please don't push us away, we just want to help.
31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: Hooked and reeled in...(For the record...didn't read whatever you said...don't really care what a cheater has to say)...

31 May 10 UTC Spring, 8: The silent treatment :( My goodness, this has really gotten terrible. Persia, please. I know it is in your nature to revert back to how you treated your mother after your father left but this wont help anything! Let me, nay, let US, all of us, help you. We're here for you friend. You just have to let us in. Please :(
31 May 10 UTC Autumn, 8: Next!
01 Jun 10 UTC Autumn, 8: My god, he's one step away from covering his ears, stamping his feet and shouting "la la la I can't hear you"
01 Jun 10 UTC Autumn, 8: God, can you little girls whine a little more? God...you carry on like you are on the rag. Get over it. I think you two have anger issues, for real...
01 Jun 10 UTC Autumn, 8: :( It really is sad to see. He has reverted to his infant phase, using the insults of others back at them. Persia, you need to let us help! You need to admit that you have a problem. That's the only way we can truly help you. Remember, you're not mad at us. You're mad at your father for not being there for you. I know it hurts, but it's ok
01 Jun 10 UTC Autumn, 8: There is is again....the Multi coming on right after each other. Dude...if you are going to cheat, don't be so fucking OBVIOUS. It's really pathetic.
01 Jun 10 UTC Autumn, 8: He's getting incoherent now guys :( It's getting really bad. Persia, I'm not mad because I understand it isn't your fault. I understand that this aggression is really towards your father, but think my friend think! You aren't making sense! If what you said was true, then you would only be accusing yourself of being an obvious multi as well. I am hoping informing you of your fallacy will show you the light, show you the way to getting free of this pent up aggression. I'm here for you Persia.
01 Jun 10 UTC Autumn, 8: <Yawn....> Not even worth reading your out-of-control tirades anymore. Grow up, children...
02 Jun 10 UTC Good game, Syph
02 Jun 10 UTC Congrats on the win Syphilis. Good game everyone/
02 Jun 10 UTC Hehe, thanks for playing peeps. Good luck next time :)
03 Jun 10 UTC Good game Syph

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syphilis (193 D)
Won. Bet: 20 D, won: 53 D
18 supply-centers, 16 units
jaradthescot (153 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 30 D
10 supply-centers, 12 units
krellin (80 D X)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 12 D
4 supply-centers, 2 units
Piemanthe3rd (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 6 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
amurphy7 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
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amurphy7 (100 D)Rome (Autumn, 6) with 1 centres.
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