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Finished: 11 PM Thu 25 Mar 10 UTC
bedtime story
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 70 D - Spring, 1914, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1903: his poor carpet!
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1903: That sucks dude
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1904: yes it does
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1905: guys...thank you for that lesson in trust....
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1906: It will happen again and again man, this is the longest alliance I've had in any game
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1906: but guysyou should think about if its really smart to lie from the move....a good partner in that game and y will look better than...turkey now
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: sometimes being honest works very well. sometimes it doesnt...look at you now.
sometimes lying works very well. sometimes it doesnt...look at me now

there is no single right way to negotiate. stabs are as much a part of the game as alliances.
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: you are right...but does that help you in the first move...no
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: i start a new game ...now...War is Hell....but the Sound is nice....
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: to be fair, lying to you did help in the first move. i picked up sevastapol and rumania from you...and had a nice 3 build 1901
it wasnt lying to you that did me in, it was the cohesive and well executed attack from austria and italy.
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1906: you right...but if ...omg...if..lol...if you hadent lied than we would have overrun austria like that
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: in the example of france and england
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: Guys, let's draw it up. No one is close to 18. No one is close to being eliminated. (without fleets, austria can't eliminate me or italy in the next 4 or so years...thats at least 40 minutes to an hour of play and he still wont have 18).
england and france seem to be stalemated
what do you guys think?
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1909: please hit ready kaiser
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1909: no one interested in the draw idea? any arguments against it? england, austria, you guys really think you can get 7 more centres?
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1909: i think we need to mix this up
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1909: How do you suggest we do that?
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1909: Well I am getting le tired
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1909: gang bang on austria
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1909: well then take a nap and then fire ze missiles
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1909: England just vote draw
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1909: but seriously we have been playing for three hours and europe has evolved into a stalemate in 1910
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1909: if england wont draw, just stop fighting each other and concentrate on england. though england isnt even fighting. ..lets wrap it up boys, good game.
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1910: drop out then,
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1910: theres a difference when one person wants to draw and the whole board wants to draw please i beseech you let us go you will win points all the same
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1910: If england doesnt want to draw we have to make him want to draw
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1910: why would i drop out? i fought hard for the draw. you are fighting for nothing. and all you gain is the fact that the four of us will never ally with you in a game again.
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1910: this is diplomacy, not the grudge game
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1911: engladn many of us live on the east coast where it is one o clock, be diplomacy a game i also have other needs such as sleep, as much as ithink it would be really cool if you won, you can't and if you want to hold out for us to drop out because we need sleep i think that is unhumane on the other hand if you are waiting for me to die than fine and say so i will abandon naples and tunis for the sake of your precious points if they mean that much to you
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1911: or have the cowardice to continue your actions behind close doors whatever suits you best
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1911: i have no cowardice, i simply want ot finsih my game, which i so rarely do.
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1911: than hit draw! itll be over
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1911: ...wow, that is a very bad reason...
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1911: you wont finish for another three hours if you dont stab france, if you want to win take spain and portugal and brest take munich and berlin, stop pussyfooting around it
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1911: that uis not finished that is merely the end of a new beginning
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1911: you are speaking giberish, not taking any actions and delaying my life
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1911: You are in third place, you are not going to win.
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1912: you will never win. how can you not see that. just tell me which centres you plan to capture to reach 18. you arent even attacking anyone.
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1912: FUCK I JUST MISSED THE TURN
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1912: dont worry, its not the end of the world he still isnt that close to winning.
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1913: this stab puts you at 12. even if you get brest, marseilles, paris, belgium, that still only gives you 16...you still cant win. plus you are about to lose iberia and st pete's.

do you play chess? if so, you will understand the stalemate concept. the same thing is happening here. it is impossible for you to win. the only way you could win is if we go to bed. which, im sure youll admit, isnt a fun way to win
there is nothing shameful in a draw...
25 Mar 10 UTC Spring, 1913: Please ready up austria I'd like to sleep this century ;)
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1913: ready up?
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1913: he means hit ready dont worry about it just continue on your mission to purgue the english from scandinavia
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1913: I am so envious of Germany and Russia
25 Mar 10 UTC Autumn, 1913: Speaking of which, I look like the U.S.S.R.!
25 Mar 10 UTC good game, all.
25 Mar 10 UTC (and good night)
25 Mar 10 UTC good night everyone
25 Mar 10 UTC Thank god, goodnight

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Austria
KaiserWilly (664 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 14 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
England
shadowlurker (108 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 14 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
France
brandon.kerth (133 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 14 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Turkey
Frank (234 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 14 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Italy
chad! (157 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 14 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Germany
Shyox (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Civil Disorders
Shyox (100 D)Germany (Spring, 1904) with 1 centres.
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