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Finished: 09 PM Wed 12 Jun 19 UTC
5 minutes /phase
Pot: 119 D - Autumn, 1912, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Chaqa (4231 D (B))
12 Jun 19 UTC If I were Italy in this situation I would not have taken the Ionian move as hostile whatsoever, given Turkey's draw vote and the German solo threat.

If he had then taken say Naples or Tunis, different story.
12 Jun 19 UTC I failed to notice France leaving.
12 Jun 19 UTC Italy, you definitely didn't play this correctly in that situation, but I thought your play in the rest of the game was superb.
12 Jun 19 UTC How in the hell do u think I stabbed you? My goodness. Think man

I need 8 centers.for.a.solo and I cant even get 1 from.germany
12 Jun 19 UTC I didn't make perfect moves, but felt threatened, made a mistake, I suppose, looking back at it
12 Jun 19 UTC But also, don't come into the post game chat being an absolute ass.
12 Jun 19 UTC He played fine til then i.mean a.fleet with my armies.tied up

Me being a dumbass and putting a fleet in romania...that farked.me.
12 Jun 19 UTC I was honestly surprised I had a chance to solo. I didn't expect to knock England down by 3 centers in one year like that. I got lucky.
12 Jun 19 UTC Looking back at it more I guess I'm with Turkey and Germany, plus you kinda have to just hope Turkey isn't hostile, because, if they are it doesn't matter
12 Jun 19 UTC Cuz it was what cost us the draw maybe. France coming back.may have changed it but when he went AWOL I had to help
12 Jun 19 UTC Thank you; I do understand the game and try to play well. Just have to get the end better I suppose
12 Jun 19 UTC I mean, if I hadn't committed 2-3 armies east early on, Turkey would have run away with this. I recognized I needed to prop up Italy (must be a German thing) so that I had time to finish off Russia, France, England, etc. and keep Turkey from solo-ing.
12 Jun 19 UTC I did a quick fleet count. U had at most 2 and not sure I loved u leaving tyrolia either
12 Jun 19 UTC I dont think I could have

Italy went fleet heavy
12 Jun 19 UTC Italy u played awesome for most of the way

But use.logic. Turkey locked in a death struggle to keep Germany y with 10.centers isnt gonna solo.

12 Jun 19 UTC OG France helped a lot too by attacking Italy for so long. I don't see why he disbanded Edinburgh Yorkshire over Tyr in 1904. he could probably have mopped up England and been a major threat.
12 Jun 19 UTC Ur move out of tyrolia..

12 Jun 19 UTC That confused me, as well. I built under the assumption Tyr would be disbanded. I guess never assume anything
12 Jun 19 UTC In 1908? I think that was an OK play, if he had moved Trieste up. He kept me from taking Spain for a long time because of that, he just didn't completely commit.
12 Jun 19 UTC I took my stab for.a.solo. gwrmany sent troops to help. France and England killing each other let him.snag half of russia
12 Jun 19 UTC Noted for the future.
12 Jun 19 UTC I needed him in tyrolia to keep vienna.safe
12 Jun 19 UTC And for.my.own dumbass move...fleet to romania....total bs.move and I knew it when I did it
12 Jun 19 UTC I worried I would get cut out of it somehow. You've not explained 5 times why that assessment was wrong, and thank you for it, but that is what I thought
12 Jun 19 UTC now*
12 Jun 19 UTC I don't really think anyone played too poorly except for Original France. He had some questionable choices mid-game. England played great until the end, but he couldn't really stop me once I had isolated him.
12 Jun 19 UTC @Italy - I do think attacking Austria straight away is not generally a good idea. if I hadn't stepped in to help, Turkey would have gobbled you up and this game probably would have been very different.
12 Jun 19 UTC Russia and Austria were...interesting
12 Jun 19 UTC I was in a spot where I just kinda had to hope that Germany didn't stab me. I didn't have the resources to actually defend myself, so I was hoping to pick up a few French centers. That did not work.
12 Jun 19 UTC I k ow why Germany did it. I'd have tried same thing. Russia was off the rails
12 Jun 19 UTC His moves were of a drunk
12 Jun 19 UTC England, I think your biggest mistake was moving out of Portugal in 1905. You could have gone +1 and France -1, instead you maintained the status quo. I think it was obvious France moves Spain to Portugal, so that move kinda dumbfounded me.
12 Jun 19 UTC Chaqa. If Italy ayed it tight with a new.france what other options did ya have?

U said Romania but how?
12 Jun 19 UTC Attacking Austria straight away could've ended up poorly. But, if I hadn't he also would've had 3 builds in 1901 with a weak Russian neighbor. Never know. Many ifs
12 Jun 19 UTC Well what I thought was going to happen was that English Channel moves to Mid Atlantic to force Portugal from me, so I was trying to bounce that. And he hadn't moved Spa-Por before, so I was hoping he didn't do that. I might have outthought myself there. Really could've used that extra build.
12 Jun 19 UTC I saw 17 after England but if Italy helps hold Vienna and im.helping hold western med...
12 Jun 19 UTC I think Austria has to trust Italy in 1901 since a hostile Italy spells doom. Even after the ominous Spring 01, I still went by this line of thinking. Afterwards, I did everything I could to power up Turkey just on principle.
12 Jun 19 UTC I play Austria the same way. Hope Italy wont hit me ...if they do Turkey gobbles up my scraps
12 Jun 19 UTC I play Austria the same way. Hope Italy wont hit me ...if they do Turkey gobbles up my scraps
12 Jun 19 UTC I still think we have a draw if France holds and I am helping hold western med

He mentioned Romania bit I'm not sure how
12 Jun 19 UTC Yeah, I don't see (in hindsight) how he breaks that
12 Jun 19 UTC I meant that you having a fleet in Romania made my options more wide. I think my best bet had the stalemate in the west appeared (because I don't think it ever really existed in practice without the Turkish fleets), I maybe either still take Vienna, or I sneak an army into Italy by sacrificing Marseilles - letting Piedmont into Mars in exchange for Tyrolia getting into Piedmont, then Tuscany, or something.

I'm not saying i definitely could solo but I think it was not a sure thing that you guys had the stalemate.
12 Jun 19 UTC Romania was what he was suggesting earlier but that cNt be right

I had a.black sea.fleet and armies in Serbia and.bulg both
12 Jun 19 UTC Ok....u mentioned Romania and that confused me
12 Jun 19 UTC That makes more sense, Germany. You would've had to have been creative, but it's possible
12 Jun 19 UTC There was no mate in the west

It was settling down in the east although trieste supporting vienna...
12 Jun 19 UTC There was no mate in the west

It was settling down in the east although trieste supporting vienna...
12 Jun 19 UTC Sorry for double
12 Jun 19 UTC It was fun though! Hope to see you all in some more games.


I recommend reading this blog and site in general - helps out a lot with Gunboat strategy and thinking.
12 Jun 19 UTC Y'all as well. Good win Germany, pardon the expletives Turkey, see y'all around.

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Chaqa (4231 D (B))
Won. Bet: 17 D, won: 119 D
21 supply-centers, 17 units
Stressedlines (1559 D)
Survived. Bet: 17 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Survived. Bet: 17 D
4 supply-centers, 5 units
PhoenixFlame (489 D)
Survived. Bet: 0 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Fortress Door (1842 D)
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dipperjay (2070 D (G))
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