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Finished: 11 PM Fri 11 Jan 19 UTC
Championship Crown-85
1 days /phase
Pot: 10 D - Autumn, 1906, Finished
1 excused missed turn
Game won by mhsmith0 (853 D)
09 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck!
09 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1901: Thanks you too :)
09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: interesting game so far. I think this past turn helped you a bit in the balkans.
09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: I misplayed with Tyrolia in S02, I thought it was *so obvious* I would support hold that you wouldn't try.

09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: it's actually not that obvious, sometimes people try odd moves in that spot as Germany. There's also really not much I can do better than a support move unless as Italy I'm the one who thinks it's so obvious you'll support hold that I want to try and get cute.
09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: in retrospect spring 1903 goes much better for me if I go ven-tyr supported by tri instead of tri-tyr; I think I was mainly worried about the tyr-pie (including via retreat) route there
09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1903: I don't have much experience on this site as you can see from my account. I'm just a FtF player, who made this to try some new stuff.

The more 1v1 I play, the more I'll learn these kind of idiosyncrasies, hopefully
09 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1904: yeah there's definitely some key points to it. I think I'm overall in the lead here, but the game definitely isn't over yet.
09 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1904: something of a coin flip type turn coming up
09 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1904: Predicted Tyrolia wrong again eek
09 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1904: This one's over now I think.
09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: yeah that turn I think made it hard to pick up the W unfortunately. I'm going to be able to destroy your SPA fleet whether it retreats to Portugal or Marseilles, and then I can kind of run it up in the northwest.
09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Yeah I misplayed this one poorly with Spain south coast. Didn't think it through at all.
09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: I have to be off now. Good night
09 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1904: Have a good night
PS The key coin flip wrt the spain fleet was F NTH and F MAO. I went MAO-ENG explicitly to bounce your fleet; the problem with letting me into ENG (the only way to let your fleet escape) is that I can then use that to attack you in a bunch of different directions (ENG-Brest, Lon, or Bel), plus I can push fleets north and west anyway.
The problem with not taking Spain in 1903, though, is that you're stuck at 2 builds instead of 3, which is tough as well. No easy answer in that spot.
09 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1905: btw I'd also recommend this article
as a good resource in terms of the stalemate lines and important positionings. Doesn't really matter wrt the opening, but can definitely come into play lategame.

FvA tracks very well against the Versailles/Main Stalemate Line, while this setup tracks very well against the Juggernaut line. Barring breakthroughs into home centers (which happens sometimes in this setup), the keys to victory seem to be:

Germany: either shutting down access to MAO and taking all of the Iberian centers (it's usually REALLY hard for Italy to take and hold Warsaw/Moscow, which are both necessary to hit 17 without French centers), or holding onto at least one Iberian center while picking up Sevastopol for 18 (sometimes he gets into Turkey too, but that's not a position that can hold indefinitely against a fleet -heavy attack)

Italy: breaking through MAO and forcing ALL of Spain/Por/Mar (at that point, English centers, Brest, Paris, or Sev are all potential 18th centers) or taking just ONE Spa/Por/Mar center while taking all of War/Mos/Sev.

Basically, if Germany can stymie MAO access, the game is usually easy for him (that's why Italy spams fleet builds in 1902, to force the issue before Germany can set up a blockade), and if Italy can get past MAO with like 2 fleets, then he'll usually win barring a total collapse in his position in the east.

But knowing how to set up stalemate lines around Sev (for either side), Warsaw/Moscow (from the north), Vie/Bud/Rum (from the south) etc can potentially be critical in the late game when it's really tight.
10 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1905: Thanks for all the help, it's really appreciated. I'm generally alright at setting up stalemates, it's the openings that I miscalculate.
10 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1905: No worries. Spring season ended up good for you, winning a couple coin flips in the east.
10 Jan 19 UTC Autumn, 1905: Misordered Galicia to Rumania, oops
10 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1906: Yah 8 hate those do it sometimes myself
10 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1906: If it helps, I don’t think that was a critical impact. Once I got my army into Serbia, I could have retreated to Ukraine and tapped Galicia this season to retake Vienna regardless. The extra fleet build just now was convenient for me but I d8nt think it’ll ultimately matter.
10 Jan 19 UTC Spring, 1906: I am effectively conceding to save time.
10 Jan 19 UTC Ok gg
10 Jan 19 UTC GG!

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mhsmith0 (853 D)
Won. Bet: 5 D, won: 5 D
19 supply-centers, 14 units
Andyyy (250 D)
Survived. Bet: 5 D
11 supply-centers, 10 units
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