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Finished: 04 PM Fri 25 Jan 19 UTC
Gunboating II
1 day /phase
Pot: 140 D - Autumn, 1916, Finished
Classic, No messaging, Anonymous players, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Josafina (100 D)
23 Jan 19 UTC Congrats France!
23 Jan 19 UTC Thanks. Good game everyone.
24 Jan 19 UTC Contrat France, nice alliance and nice stab ;)
@Austria&Italy- what was this endgame? Couldn't you count until 18? I tried to slow down France in the north as long as I could - it was an easy stalemate if you just had stop the fighting between you.... :(
24 Jan 19 UTC Thanks, that you say it. I never understand why Austria starts to attack me. Did he see his chance to solo? Did he want to take revenge for the start as I attacked him, until I recognized that Turkey was getting too strong? He should have seen that his attack long term just lead into a French solo. And that is what I was showing him almost every turn sice his stab. It was understandable in spring and autunm 10 as I made some support hold orders and in autunm 11 and spring 12 as I moved all my troops in the direction of France and started to attack him. But Austria didn´t wanted to stop attacking me, he uses my westwards movement to take he rest of my eastern centers. Sometime I thought, he will maybe understand when I attack him a bit and when I let France growing. But it took another two years until he recognized that his short-sighted policy lead into the French solo, but then it was too late. All in all it was bad played from the Austrian side and well played from France.
24 Jan 19 UTC I will explain my moves, no idea about Italy.

In Autumn 1908, I had already decided to push for the draw. At this point, we had essentially eliminated Turkey. Italy and I were not fighting. Then he built an army (4th army with 3 fleets, as Italy?), and he support held France and me. I took that to mean he would be attacking me. You can't attack France with 4 armies from Italy. You can only move against Austria. He support held France and I, which means he wasn't really offering alliances. I honestly don't know what they meant at all. When I support hold someone it is offering an alliance or for strategic reasons (usually if it is strategic, that would mean alliance as well). This was neither.

Autumn 1910: I am worried about the solo. Let's get more fleets in the med. Italy isn't doing it, so I am trying. I am not attacking him and moving away from Turkey, trying to show him we are not going to fight. We have support held each other (Bulg-Greece), which is me offering an alliance and...I am not sure what it means for him.

Spring 1911: He attacks Trieste. Now, I really have no idea what is going on. I just opened up Sev and Greece for him to take in a stab. The solo is coming, but I honestly can't trust Italy behind me. He isn't moving towards the Med. He isn't moving anywhere. He is just standing still. My only chance is to take Turkey and push Italy into being the only line between France and I. This may cause the solo, but if Italy does play his defense correctly in the west, this will put us into a draw.

Autumn 1914: I have taken Turkey. France has not been helpful, because they are not attacking Italy. Now, Italy is out of position. He needs a fleet in Tunis and a fleet in Naples/Rome. His armies need to be in Tuscany and Venice. We have probably lost.

Autumn 1915: He did not move into Naples or Rome, but he did put his armies to the correct positions. My only hope now is to delay the end of the game till next year and hope I can take Berlin and then trade it for Munich before he is ready to defend it.

Spring 1916: Well, that failed. Kind of a really long shot anyway.
24 Jan 19 UTC O man. Witnessing that silly ballet of green and red fleet, while trying to hold France back, up north, even convoying into England ! Giving you time! Haha, I rarely felt so helpless.
You had such a a great understanding at the beginning, it was impressive.
But I get your point : building Italian armies was a killer. And congrats to France who never needed to attack Italy until that last moment.
24 Jan 19 UTC Now I can understand a few things better. I understand that my additinal army build was my part in the chain of mistakes. In autunm 08 we looked back on a strong Austrian-Italian alliance and I espected to draw without Germany who could have been eliminated easily without fearing someone could go for the solo. That was what I wanted to show with the double support hold.
But my postioning wasn´t such good as it seemed to be. All my fleets were in Turkey while all my armies were in Italy. But to eliminate the rest of Turkey and maybe Germany I would have needed it the other way around. My perfect positioning would have been fleets in Black Sea, Aegean Sea and Tyrrhenian Sea to bounce Ionian Sea and armies in Moscow, Sevastopol, Constantinople, Piedmont and Venice/Tyrolia. That´s the reason why I chose to build an army.

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France
Josafina (100 D)
Won. Bet: 20 D, won: 140 D
18 supply-centers, 15 units
Austria
Tantris (2469 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
Theoneandonly (10891 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Germany
0k0k0 (4755 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D
2 supply-centers, 3 units
England
Nurelya (227 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Turkey
eaterofcake (115 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Russia
bncsoccer (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
Iman8989 (100 D)Turkey (Spring, 1907) with 2 centres.
Gypyx (100 D)Turkey (Autumn, 1906) with 2 centres.
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