Finished: 02 PM Wed 08 Feb 17 UTC
Fist Fight-19
1 day /phase
Pot: 250 D - Spring, 2013, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
26 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2009: Cautionary move in case you support held Meeeexxx in Arizona, since I'd then have to tap Col to take it. On that note, Meeeexxx is being a bit belligerent, so I'm asserting Canadian control over the West Coast. I hope you don't mind?
26 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2009: I had no intention to come north at you, BC. I just to equal my two fleets vs. your two fleets. But no.. You're gonna come attack me. OK.
26 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2009: Can I help you Mex? I'd like to keep my single SC :P
27 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2009: If you move your fleets back and let me have San Fran and LA, I'll pull out of Arizona and stop moving towards you.
29 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: I see you were a bit concerned about Nebraska, Texas. I can move back, if you like, now that I'm reasonably sure you're not partial in the West Coast conflict.
29 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2009: I would certainly like that.
31 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2010: Texas, I appreciate the support to Arizona, though I was not intending to push further north than I already am, I'm certainly willing to help build a wall to prevent BC from coming any further south. Him having fleets on both the East and West Coast is dangerous for both of us since he has nowhere else to go.
31 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2010: I wasn't planning on going any further south, I'm only reacting to my naval interests being threatened. And Texas, I thought we had an agreement? I, for one, don't appreciate that support to Arizona. You'll note I did as you requested. The move to Nebraska, and support to Arizona, were both uncalled for.

Obviously I'm interested in a three-way draw, so why don't we focus on eliminating the remaining minors instead?
31 Jan 17 UTC Spring, 2010: Apparently I attacked one of your units, but my explanation there is that I just didn't see you owned NYC because it's so tiny :P

This turn, you can take WDC and NJ, while I take Phil. I'd also appreciate it if you allowed me to take NYC, as per our Ohio agreement. Besides, that would be my final SC on the east coast anyway, while you're probably getting something more in the Caribbean.
31 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2010: Cali and probably Peru will be out by the end of the turn. I supported the move to Arizona because I didn't like all of your advancements on Mexico.
31 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2010: Can you move NYC->NJ this turn? I forgot NY is actually making moves, so I won't get Phil this turn, and clearly I'll lose Ari, so I'd like the build from NYC.
31 Jan 17 UTC Autumn, 2010: Sure.
01 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2010: BC- I was getting out of NYC but you cut my support!
01 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2010: Oh, sorry. I forgot to change that move. Things get kinda messy when I have a lot of units. :/

I can support Cape May to NJ this turn?
01 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2010: Please do.
01 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2010: Please do.
02 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Supporting Cape May to NJ. Can you support NYS to Phil?
02 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Ok.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Well, now I'm glad I was cautious and didn't support to Phil.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Why's that? I have yet to be dishonest so much as once, which is more than I can say for you.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: You attacked me in Colorado and made a clearly aggressive move to Iowa. I originally didn't support you because I thought that you might have been lying about forgetting to support me to NJ, but I guess you gust really wanted me out of cape may.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: I clearly didn't intend to actually take Colorado: note that the move wasn't supported. I just didn't want you to use it against me. How is anything of what I'm doing even nearly as egregious as you directly causing my dislodgement in Arizona? As for Iowa, I'm trying to build a defensive line because our relationship doesn't have a whole lot of trust, again because of your aggression in Arizona. I've stuck to everything I've said I'd do (except that one thing I forgot), and I haven't actually underhandedly caused the loss of SCs for you.

If you must know, I'll be holding position on land and moving Montana to Dakotas this turn. I'm happy with my borders, with the one exception of not owning Phil.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: I helped Mexico against you because you are the strongest of us, and allowing you to attack the weakest seems stupid. I'm only trying to protect the 3-way draw.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: As am I, which is why I'm stabilising our border. There'll be no way for either of us to attack the other. I consider this a good thing.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Ok. Why don't we extend that peace to Mexico? There's no point in you attacking him unless you are going for the solo.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: He was aggravating my control of the West Coast and San Fran, which I explicitly wanted. It's okay now. I like this border.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: So are we all okay just cleaning up the last bit of Peru and New York? I'll call draw soon as that's completed.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Also, Texas, I'm convoying from Veracruz to Yucatan. Don't want to look threatening to Nuevo Leon.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Ok that's fine.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Yep, I'm all for the three-way. I just wanted to put myself in a relatively hard to terminate position first. I'll be holding position with the exception of units not already in position, and I'll also move NYS->Phil, expecting Texan support.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: You will have to wait until the end of the year for that- I'm going to set up in West Penn to support you because I want to SH myself in NJ.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Fair enough. NAO will be going to MAO, so please don't block that.
03 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2011: Don't worry. My Bermuda fleet will be needed for taking Holguin.
03 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2011: Ready button, Texas?
03 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2011: Also, some of my moves this turn might seem aggressive. They're not intended to be, I'm just solidifying my position. I don't intend to take any more SCs from Mexico or Texas.
03 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2011: Yeah, that seemed pretty aggressive. And didn't you say that you were satisfied with your Mexican border?
04 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2011: Yeah, I just made the moves that made it impossible for Mexico to retake LA. I don't intend to aggress any SCs. For the eastern part of the map, note that I moved to Chesapeake Bay and not the East Coast, which would've been a more valuable offensive position; I just wanted to advance my army to Mass, so I needed the fleet out, which necessitated vacating Cape May as well, and I didn't want to move back.
05 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2012: So if you two (Tex and BC) decide who gets Philly, we be drawing, correct?
05 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2012: Yes, that is the plan.
05 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2012: He will be able to take it this turn and we will be fine. I will put some units in place to kick NY out of Havana if he goes there.
05 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2012: I've readied my moves. Looked at the board and considered whether solo is possible for me if I take NJ and San D, concluded it's not. I hope we can all ready up so it doesn't take several days to finish this.
05 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2012: Thank you, Texas. Wherever New York retreats, we can kick him out.
05 Feb 17 UTC Spring, 2012: Also, thanks NY for not delaying this.
06 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2012: Texas: I figure you're taking Philadelphia anyway, so I'm moving it to New Jersey. Do move W.Penn->Phil, please.
06 Feb 17 UTC Autumn, 2012: Supporting you to Havana Mexico.
06 Feb 17 UTC Alright. Let's draw, shall we?
06 Feb 17 UTC Good game everyone!
06 Feb 17 UTC gee gee
06 Feb 17 UTC Maxxx....
07 Feb 17 UTC Good game!

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British-Columbia
Clownie (295 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 83 D
21 supply-centers, 21 units
Texas
Markus01 (0 D X)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 83 D
20 supply-centers, 20 units
Mexico
IceKingCold (1326 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 83 D
17 supply-centers, 17 units
California
DanielW (226 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Florida
Gandalf69 (90 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Heartland
jkelly965 (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
New-York
hajra_vac (358 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Peru
Calculus (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Quebec
KennyS (108 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Cuba
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
ShiningIdeal (100 D)Florida (Spring, 2004) with 4 centres.
lambda (2178 D)Quebec (Autumn, 2004) with 1 centres.
Gate (249 D)Cuba (Spring, 2007) with 2 centres.
Chandler92 (100 D)Heartland (Autumn, 2002) with 4 centres.
NoLaubach (100 D)California (Spring, 2005) with 4 centres.
CLW3 (100 D)New-York (Spring, 2003) with 5 centres.
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