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Finished: 02 AM Wed 14 Dec 16 UTC
Trumped Up Bullshit
12 hours /phase
Pot: 210 D - Spring, 1910, Finished
Classic, Rulebook press, Sum-of-Squares Scoring, Hidden draw votes
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
01 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1901: Welcome to all players.. France ??? If there are no orders for France in the Autumn move.. There may be a good reason why sonsrred couldn't get orders in and sonsrred might want to play, I hope so.
01 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1901: Trumped Up Bullshit indeed, where you at France?
02 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1902: Welcome to stackxvhanger the new player with France.
Please do the best you can with la Belle France
02 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1902: JSYK, my draw vote is up. Turns out new France is similar to old France, very low energy lol
02 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1902: I recommend everyone drawing so we can start a new respectable game. This one is going to be heavily lopsided otherwise.
02 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1902: Yeah. The French Affair is going to ruin this. Either Germany or I are going to snowball and solo
02 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1902: How will it work if France doesn't vote, lol? I have mine in.
02 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1902: Put your draw votes in, play until he CD's again, and the draw will kick in automatically
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: someone is off draw, turn it on so we can start a new game
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: I have both draw and cancel votes up.. Let's draw it's SoS scoring so it gives me no extra points and some of you will do well.. Draw before yet another player takes on France for free and the like the two we've had..does nothing
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: I care not about this game..I managed to get my favourite country in a different anon game and have bad a successful first year ..two builds not the one this country normally might get. Got the contested nuetral sc and one of the home sc's of my rival for the nuetral sc...Hoorah.. two builds for me, none for my enemy.. Hoorah a five three advantage for 02 in that game
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: hello
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: Errr, welcome Francois the Third. Please read the press and vote Draw
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: Or not, and watch nifty Nev blitz the Balkans
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: I think there may be very few draw votes actually up so bon chance
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: Bienvenue.
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: Bienvenue.
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: i agree
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: this is my very first diplomacy game
03 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1903: therefore, i can assure you that i have ALMOST no clue what I am doing
03 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1903: I also demand england and italy to stop their aggression, otherwise face gas attacks on their beloved capitals
03 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1903: BREXITTTT
03 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1903: yeah i think we need to start a new game, this one we need to draw - 2 frances have ruined us - i'll post the game id in here we can all rejoin
04 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1903: Nah, it's just getting interesting, at least wait until you've got rid of that daffy old MajorMitchell.
04 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1903: cmon russia and austria
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: France supported Germany so it could...lose? What?
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: France supported Germany so it could...lose? What?
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: germany promised security.
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: germany needs security also, this game should have been drawn/cancelled years ago.. someone is jamming it up... *eyes Russia*
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: Germany always promises security. Learn your history you fucking lemming
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: Not me. I have voted for it since I told you I would. At this point, I think we should play on. France is playing his first game and it is a good experience for him as a start. Hopefully, you and England aren't too mean to him. France and I are allied.
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: I still have my draw vote up and will leave it up for a little while longer.
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: now now England, I made france the same offer you took and capitalized on when the draw was on the line. simmer
05 Dec 16 UTC Autumn, 1904: You simmer, fucker.
06 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1905: no need to stop being a lady ;)
09 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Up until now, I have only voted for the draw because of the French NMRs at the outset, and Germany/Austria's whining about starting a new game. Despite the complaining, I feel this has been a high quality, fun game. But we are now at the point where we're just going to be grinding. I think England has an outside shot at a solo. But Italy and I really have no realistic shot. We can (Italy and I), if we cooperate, stop the English solo. It's sum of squares so eliminating NEV doesn't really get anyone any points. He gets a survival. We all get a decent share of points. Therefore, instead of playing it out further, why not vote for the draw?
09 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Perfect game name. Good luck all.
09 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: How the hell do I have a chance at the solo over you?
09 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Well, I am voting for the draw so if you and Italy vote for it the game will end. If you choose to play on for the solo, you are about to get the stalemate line in the north when you capture Stp. From there you will get Berlin giving you 13 centers. After that you only need five more. I do not need to itemize them further as you already see where your other centers come from.
09 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Lol.
09 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: Also, my draw vote has been up this whole time
09 Dec 16 UTC Spring, 1907: I had mine up also. Maybe Turkey hasn't voted for it.
12 Dec 16 UTC Good game, gentlemen. Who was the last draw vote? I thought England had a shot at the solo.
12 Dec 16 UTC I was. Italy was going to gut my southern coast if you refused to pressure him at home.
13 Dec 16 UTC I figured you would convoy across to Liv and/or Pru. I was afraid Italy would not understand his role in securing the draw. If he had pressed inland, I would have had to throw you a solo. In the end, it was a pretty interesting end game. They say the three way draw is the next to perfect ending. Only a two way is prettier. However, I've never been a party to one.
13 Dec 16 UTC I usually play for the three way and stay alert for openings to solo. 2 ways almost always break down before they really even get started.
13 Dec 16 UTC When I was at 14, I think Italy was thinking of buying the argument I was the primary threat to solo. Especially because I was getting nervous waiting for you to make your move west. If you could have played it out a bit longer, you might have been able to sell it. Maybe if you'd retreated to Ruhr, you could have maneuvered for better position before you stabbed Italy? I don't know.
13 Dec 16 UTC If you'll notice, he saw it coming and moved west with that single army the same turn I stabbed him. I played him as long as possible until I felt he was just about to try for the stab.
13 Dec 16 UTC You played a good game. Congratulations on topping.

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England
ChoosyBeggar (325 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 102 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Russia
eturnage (500 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 75 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Italy
v_ diplomat4 (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 34 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Austria
MajorMitchell (1158 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Germany
MyxIsMe (511 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
Turkey
NEV (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 30 D
France
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
sonsrred (100 D)France (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
Stackexchangers (100 D)France (Autumn, 1902) with 3 centres.
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