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Finished: 03 AM Wed 24 Aug 16 UTC
WWIII-18
1 day /phase
Pot: 170 D - Spring, 2013, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Public messaging only, Sum-of-Squares Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
19 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:Argentina, I moved into open water space in 3 regions. While I was aware that 2/3 of those regions had been previously occupied by you, I had no intention in competing with you for control of those waters. As we are now at parity in the southern region I would feel comfortable agreeing to stabilize the board as it is for all units in the southern oceans. We can instead focus on our claiming the last of the available northern spaces ie.europe, pac russia, and (regrettably) Oz

Russia, you are a tremendously diplomatic tzar. I apologize for judging you by your race to be something you are not. Take it from an african warlord. I would much appreciate your assistance if you would be so kind as to attack egypt
19 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:USA, you just keep lookin fine over there ;)
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Oz]:Thank you for your kind hospitality. All kangaroos are 99% off. Bye two, and you get a Tasmanian devil free!
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [USA]:Russia, I'm basically just gonna make an exit from Asia, and sail into the pacific
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:You mean to fight me Argentina?
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:USA I wish I had woken up early enough to see that. If you wish to aid in the fight against Argentina I would be very grateful to have you as an ally, your skill and ingenuity has been proved time and time again. lets face it you have been able to attack me multiple times and the best I have achieved against you is to get to the Hudson bay and Alaska I will keep to godthab and the Norwegian sea from know on to allow you time to organize your defenses in the south. As an added measure of trust, if you wish to occupy the Arctic circle that will be fine with me. I would appreciate no direct threats to my coast though. You understand.

SA: looks like Argentina is not keen on a peaceful resolution to this impasse we find ourselves in, as newly found allies I will do my best to aid you in the defense of your borders. If there is any specific moves you feel would be helpful to you that I can make please do not hesitate to ask.

Argentina: I don't pretend to understand your battle strategy for the moves ahead but it seems that provoking the USA and SA during a time of upheaval and while engaged in a battle in my sphere of influence is a recipe for a war on three fronts. A war you are probably quite capable of navigating, if your performance so far is anything to go by but why risk it ??. What is your end game ??
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:Gentlemen in these times of great uncertainty I am proud to stand beside you at war just as we have in peace. Argentina, hell hath no fury like the war on three fronts you just provoked
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:My end game is drawing. I put my vote up two turns ago and then pushed the US back and took away the source of issue with SA this turn.

None of you will push me out of anything but Asia, and the only one getting those SC is russia.

If you want to wait while I go down 2 and he goes up 2, be my guest.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:P.S. what do you think Russia, the person in the signifcantly better position, is going to do with his troops when you both pull away from him? You'll both be occupying the seas near me, you think he'll just wait for 15 turns for you two to grow?

Just hit the draw button, I'm not stopping till you do.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:I respect your candor. I think we should leave it to the USA and SA to decide where their best interests lay. It is true me and the USA have been at war longest but there has been no dishonesty or subterfuge or betrayal. Me and SA have only been mutually beneficial to each other.

I suspect you are referring to the notion that I may move against their lines while they attack you. However the same argument is just as valid when applied to you, it is in their tactical interests to take present behavior into account when formulating there own plans. But as it stands you have attacked both of them while they have been dealing with me and europe. I am keen for a draw but lets be honest about motives and tactics shall we
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:I haven't attacked the US^
SA attacked me and failed to get the ground he needed^
I wasn't talking to you^
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:And I'm still waiting on a draw.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:And US, if you move your fleets down, and I have to abandon korea and thailand, move my fleets through the pacific, and fight you for real, I'll take my draw down until you lose three SC to me.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Which, Imma say now US, includes doing that 2v1 push you have to touch peru.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Yet you felt compelled to reply ? and I am afraid in this game you are talking to everyone. That being said there is no need to be blunt, your interpretation of the facts is clearly at odds with mine. I am just saying that you have managed to alienate your former allies.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Because northeast pacific is my only fleet near you on that side, and it can't do shit alone.*
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Russia, you've been a constant foucet of shit for a while. This game is not as in depth as you're trying to make it sound with your weird accusations and random conspiracies. These people are smart enough to look at the board and make decisions themselves.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Its sad the trust is gone but as you can see he has selected Draw.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Funny I said the same thing earlier
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:I mean, for a while you even tried to make me seem like a "masterclass" evil genius or something. Wtf is with that
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:I think its sad we cant talk with calm civility, and this is diplomacy. If every angle is not covered something may be missed
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:But as far as I can tell you are a clever player therefore worthy of concern and respect
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:better to assume you are an evil genius and be wrong
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Than assume you are not and let you take advantage of my blindness. Take it as a sign of respect for the threat you pose and your playing ability.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Because bluntness equals uncivilized and angry banter.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:I never said you were uncivilized and angry
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Plus I was referring to your strong arming treatment of the USA.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:And truth is, brazil never moved, I got a huge advantage from that and never gave an inch from it. You're the one trying to constantly sway public opinion like some little finger rip off, but you're the one who has crushed the most people.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Ah I do like little finger my favorite character on game of thrones :) and while it is true I have crushed the most people I was in a very precarious position in the adolescence of this game, surrounded on all sides. I made a game theoretic decision to act in a preemptive and decisive fashion. everyone then took advantage of the ensuing chaos to grab as much as possible. there was alot of back and forth and I have already complimented the USA and SA on there ability to use the situation. You yourself did very well.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:"I think its sad we cant talk with calm civility"
"I never said you were uncivilized and angry"

I'm going to stop responding, breaks over and I want the ithers to read everything.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:I do seem to recall you calling on me to attack SA though. So far he is the only player I have not been at war with. I would like to keep it that way if at all possible :)
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Which is already gone now. They'll be missing the first two (I assume four if you respond to this), which were the most important.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:good idea I think that they will reach a very good evidence based conclusion. enjoy your shift and thanks for the good conversation :)
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:US, most important thing missing from this conversation: if you force me to abandon Korea and Thailand to stop you in the pacific, I'm withdrawing my draw vote until I take 2 SC of yours.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Only PR and SA left to draw.
20 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [USA]:The bickering is low energy. Let's end this game now -- the dynamism is lost, and I think things have gone stale.

Full disclosure: I'm taking a break from webdip for some time, so I have an interest in closing out my matches. But I'm happy to end the game with a unified NA
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Also, PR and Europe, and Oz don't get a defeat on their record
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:Donald J Trump isnt low energy. TheRealDonaldTrump has a score to settle with Argentina
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:Looks like we have our answer then !
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:SA how would you like to move forward ?
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Lol, you mean when your attack failed and then I took the SC I gave you back as a result SA? All your going to do is lose points by giving russia more sc. The bigger the lead the less your sc are worth.
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:its an interesting argument SA what do you think about it ??
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Everyone except you now SA.
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [South-Africa]:Well if all three of us move in against you Argentina the game should be over rather quickly. What do you say gents, a few more turns? Russia I know you're with me. USA? I think you are a man who likes to finish what he starts. Join us, we can offer you power beyond your wildest imaginations
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:Literally the only.person who gets anything is Russia, and I bet he withdraws his solo vote.

You're in a stalemate line, US will be, Russia goes up three and I blow up the three troops in kor, thai, and gua. I now have 6 unused fleets to further the lock, and I probably won't draw until you go down more or russia solos.
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Argentina]:I'd end up with about 45, US might break even, you'd be down around 10 - 15, and Russia ends up with over 100. And this is still relying on US, I'm not even concerned about you SA. We're stalemated
21 Aug 16 UTC Autumn, 2012: [Russia]:USA how do you feel about all of this ??
23 Aug 16 UTC [South-Africa]:The USA seems to have quit the game altogether. A lackluster ending to a brilliant battle. This game had some of the best banter ive ever seen. Pleasure doing war with you gents. Congrats especially to Oz who punched death in the eye and lived to tell about it. cheers guys :)
23 Aug 16 UTC [Oz]:Aye! Thank you, Russia, for being a generous host of my remaining people. Shame I was never able to make my kangaroo soldiers...
23 Aug 16 UTC [Argentina]:GG, glad Europe, PR, and Oz made the cut

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Argentina
Tamed_Horn (129 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 66 D
26 supply-centers, 26 units
Russia
Hunter2033 (191 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 61 D
25 supply-centers, 23 units
South-Africa
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 25 D
16 supply-centers, 16 units
USA
goldenrule (446 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 19 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
Europe
JackWalker (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 1 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Pacific-Russia
ryguysofly (155 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 1 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Oz
CBMet (103 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 1 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Western-Canada
Elinarius (562 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Kenya
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Quebec
Droid (192 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
India
Maluco Rasta (154 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Frozen-Antarctica
Battledoom (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Near-East
WizardNo.7 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Ghana
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Libya
whysosober? (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Brazil
Bopper800 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
China
finnoconnor (95 D)
Defeated. Bet: 0 D
Civil Disorders
allanderoo (100 D)Libya (Autumn, 2007) with 2 centres.
GotMilk? (104 D)Frozen-Antarctica (Autumn, 2009) with 1 centres.
DiogoLopes (100 D)Quebec (Autumn, 2000) with 3 centres.
Theo Trump (100 D)Brazil (Autumn, 2001) with 3 centres.
heyitsme_urbrother (106 D)Ghana (Autumn, 2009) with 2 centres.
Darknight (80 D X)China (Spring, 2006) with 2 centres.
whysosober? (100 D)Libya (Autumn, 2008) with 0 centres.
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