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Finished: 10 PM Tue 05 Jan 10 UTC
WTA Wilson
1 day /phase
Pot: 310 D - Spring, 1909, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
31 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: So now Turkey pouts and delays the game?
31 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: how am i delaying the game? austria hasn't submitted. but because you guys have been so kind, i could delay the game for you if you really wanted.
31 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: Germany,
That works great for me. I figured based on where our respective units are that both of us would take one and i'm slightly closer so I might get the second one before you. I lay no claim to Edinburgh.

To Germany and Austria,
As for the end game It appears as though Germany and Austria are the two super powers that will devour the map. I intend continue my peace with Germany, I also extend this peace to Austria and seek to further our three nations and call a draw when the others have been claimed. I don't believe I'll reach the size or power of either of you. Rather I believe I will be of a sufficient size that it will be to difficult for one of you to attack without leaving yourself unprotected from the other.

Good luck and Good Night to all
31 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: Turkey, I apologize for Italy's rudeness and immaturity. Please don't lower yourself to his level by stalling needlessly.
31 Dec 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: Please, just destroy Italy, that will make me happy.
31 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1907: I sincerely apologize if anything I said has been construed as rude or immature.
31 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Aww, everyone's happy again. Yay! Go Germany! Since I control Norway, I think I'll be awarding myself the Nobel Peace Prize.
31 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1907: If you are able to negotiate the terms of a draw, as you have so valiantly fought for, then a Peace Prize is in order.
31 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Well would everyone like to openly put forth their terms for a draw, if any?
31 Dec 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Since I have been told I live by ya'lls mercy, I'll leave it up to you.
01 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Well I'm a fan of a three way draw, and I hope Austria will support it as well.
01 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: If he so wishes, I'll even support Trieste into Venice this turn.
01 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: So sad. :-(
01 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'll accept a 4 player draw, I'm just stating preferences. If Austria is adamantly opposed to it, I'd rather have a 4 player draw than start a war over it.
01 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I've been working my butt off only to be left out?
01 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Why has Germany proposed a draw and also moved himself into Tyrolia? Perhaps he runs ahead of himself? I continue to rely on Italian support in Turkey and am of the opinion that at this moment, with neither England nor Turkey having been conquered, France and Germany would do well to focus on the north, leaving the south to the southerners. Had they, England would not have been given an opportunity to erase the French gain this turn in MAO. A clear, if implicit, border exists between the Austrian and German territories, which none hoping for a gentleman's draw would have violated.

Italy, if you support me from Trieste to Tyrolia, that would indeed prove helpful to our security. France should probably turn his unit around so as to regain Portugal.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I was moving to Tyrolia in case you agreed with an attack on Italy. If you want a 4 player draw, I'll move out immediately.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: The alternative would be an all out war, of course. France, I'm hitting North Sea if you want London. Turkey, if Austria doesn't agree to a draw, I'll attack Ukraine and support Black Sea to Sevastopol. If Armenia supports too, you're guaranteed in. Or, if you'd prefer to bounce in Ankara with the Black Sea fleet, support move Moscow in with Armenia and I'll give it back to you next round. England, if you'd like to enter the Mediterranean and get SCs from Italy and leave France alone, I'll try to get France to guarantee your current SCs, as will I if he agrees.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Wow.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Not that I really have a choice here, or that I'd be a great help...but I'm all for taking down the arrogance of Austria and Italy...but my options are pretty limited here...I wish we formulated this earlier.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Once again, for some one working toward a draw, the bellicose rhetoric seems unwarranted and counterproductive. The point being made is that the draw under discussion assumes that England and Turkey have been eliminated, which has yet to happen. I maintain that it is best to accomplish this first goal, which can simultaneously preserve an amicable relationship between the four, before jumping ahead to the second, because, for instance, one might lose sight of what we're working toward and reverse our progress, which is neither my desire nor my intention. A draw on good terms is my preferred resolution. To ensure that this occur, let us first fulfill our obligations to the north and south respectively.

With regard to Italy, he has been promised an equivalent number of supply centers as France, and at the moment lags behind France only by one. Thus, it seems unjustified to lay waste to him and not to France, if we assume Italy's weakness to be reason enough for such action, because in fact both hold proportional claims to the board.

Hence we desire not to flare tempers but to conclude this game easily and with grace.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I.e. I'd prefer a four player draw, guys!
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Good. In that case I'll move Tyrolia out and we'll deal with England ASAP.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sounds good. I think it'll take us one turn to finish off Turkey.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: In addition to Galicia, how about a DMZ zone encompassing Western Med, North Africa, Gulf of Lyon, Piedmont, Tyrolia, and Bohemia? If you'd also like to include Ukraine, good, but it's up to you.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I would prefer dmzs in the ocean and med, but those and Pie are up for Italy to decide. It would be just as easy for you and I to construct a stalemate line, if we kept Boh as Dmz. This way I could make use of my forces and not have them sitting in my homeland, while also not posing any threat to you.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I guess either way it doesn't really matter, because I'll submit my draw vote next round.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: germany I am dead no matter what, ill go take what I know I can and annoy those that helped my demise not italy who never did anything against me
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: I'd be willing to agree to the line proposed by Germany.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Well France didn't really do anything, just me.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: thats the point though france didn't do anything except give you
one less enemy so you could concentrate on me and he never fought you for belgium or holland, with the fighting down south and that, you had an easy time of sending forces north since no where else was a threat
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: If you look at the past orders you'll see that 3 phases happened before i did anything to anybody. This did result in Germany having a very strong early game. However, I was not in control of France when that happened. Sadly I don't really care if you make desperate invasions. it only serves to leave your supply centers unguarded.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Austria and Italy, may I ask what you're planning?
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: Above I said I'd prefer to draw a stalemate line. Since there was no voiced opposition, I went ahead. You've got the other end of the stalemate line drawn, so there's really nowhere for either of us to go.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: As far as what I'm planning (I might have misread the question), take Ankara, give Con to Italy, end the game with a draw.
02 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1907: In the meantime I hope Italy uses his build to fortify the sea borders that aren't dmz.
03 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: apologies to france then, I guess if I am going to die the least I can do is make it so it goes fast, also another reason is that I can obtain SCs from you easier than germany
03 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: You did move to Galicia, though.
03 Jan 10 UTC Spring, 1908: I'll grab Edi this turn, France.
03 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: I still favor a draw, but I was just getting worried about all the draw orders while England and Turkey still lived. Don't want an accidental 6 player draw.
03 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: France, what do you want North Sea fleet to do?
03 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: have it support hold london, thank you very much
03 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: Well OK then I'll do tha-waaaaiiit a second! You're not France!
03 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: England. Please fall on your sword and move London to York?
03 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: support move on London from wales.
04 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: Done. Let's finalize this round.
04 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: will do italy
04 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: This was an enjoyable game, everyone. Thanks!
04 Jan 10 UTC Autumn, 1908: Thanks Germany. And this was a good game. I like how friendly Wilson games usually end up being.
04 Jan 10 UTC Thank you all for putting up with my spinning wheels. France is in, france is out, they're in, they're out. I couldn't just GO.

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Germany
Stukus (2126 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 78 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Austria
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 78 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
France
Pronon (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 30 D, won: 78 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Italy
L1star (1647 D (S))
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 78 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
England
Shep (498 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Turkey
guy~~ (3779 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Russia
AnimeGriffin (115 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Civil Disorders
RajK (100 D)France (Autumn, 1901) with 3 centres.
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