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Finished: 04 PM Wed 16 Dec 15 UTC
Some Men Just Want to Watch the World Burn -2
1 day /phase
Pot: 93 D - Spring, 2012, Finished
World Diplomacy IX, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
27 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 2001: GameMaster: 86hyperclumsy was banned: repeat multi. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
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27 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 2001: [Quebec]:Thank you for catching that gamemaster, nice work!
27 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 2001: [Europe]:Well he never showed up anyway...
28 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 2001: [Europe]:I'm still waiting to see the day on this map when Russia doesn't stab Europe ...
28 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 2001: [Quebec]:It will be a warm and cozy day in Siberia before that ever happens
29 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Russia]:It is not just me, I have a coalition consisting of myself, Ghana and Libya.
29 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Europe]:And PR is asleep....
29 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 2001: [Russia]:He seems to have left the game, unfortunately.
06 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2003: [Pacific-Russia]:hello the new PR here. I could use some help i am in a bit of a tight spot. any supporters.
06 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2003: [Quebec]:Yes, here's some advice: View the map and make sure the warranty is not limited before before purchasing a disfunctional country
06 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2003: [China]:Quebec is flaming people left and right... RIP Pacific Russia
06 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2003: [Quebec]:Not flaming, the advice is genuine and actually sound.
06 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2003: [Pacific-Russia]:i need a little bit of a challenge don't i
07 Nov 15 UTC Spring, 2003: [Frozen-Antarctica]:Want my position?
07 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2003: [Europe]:I tried to work with your ex-president, PR. But now, Quebec advise is sound.
27 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Kenya]:Happy Thanksgiving, guys.
27 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [South-Africa]:So Quebec and USA, I'm calling y'all out because y'all reported me for meta-gaming? Like what the heck guys? Sure Frozen Antarctica and Oz stopped playing but that doesn't mean I had anything to do with it. I have never cheated in a game of diplomacy. And for the record, Western Canada never showed up. Giving both of y'all an easy alliance and an easy jump into the game. FA showed up but have up because he realized he could not do anything to change his fate.

I may be on the road to peril which I am fine with but stop making horribly inaccurate accusations like that which have absolutely no ground. Don't soil my reputation because y'all are salty I stand in the way of an easy win for y'all. Wow what scumbags.
28 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:@SA; reporting people for multi accounting is part of catching them. We had pretty clear indications of it, enough to ask the mod to look into it. Although difficult, please look at the map and moves of Oz and Argentina. You will have to say it looks suspicious at the very least. Only logging in to retreat, otherwise holding and waiting for your units to take the sc's but defending against others, or moving away for you entirely if not forgetting to log in. If I was wrong, I was wrong but I'm not going to apologize for it, as I'm still convinced those countries were never playing for their own benefit. The mod did their due dilligence and you didn't get banned so there is nothing to complain about is there? I never said anything about western canada, nor about frozen, only countries which appeared to be multi's to me and to other players. My intentiones are never to damage another player's repuation, nor to create an 'easy win'. What would be the point of that? I'm sorry you feel that way. If it was just mere luck that those countries moved exactly to your benefit every turn than you were indeed just extremely lucky and wrong to be accused of multi-ing. I'm sure you have suspected the same of other players before and reported them also, no? What should one do when they strongly suspect multi-ing? We are also far from an end or win in this game, so let's just play on shall we?
28 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:and Happy Thanksgiving to you too kenya ;)
28 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Quebec]:and SA, of course it was possible that these players agreed moves with you under normal diplomacy etc and got stabbed but the thing that finally convinced me was that I never got a reply to (nice) messages, not one. That means the players were probably not talking to anyone or were not 'people' at all. The reply from the mod however was that they were probably just new or bad players who didn't like to talk. That still doesn't explain why their moves and unit placements & retreats were always to your advantage because they should have been talking to you at least if diplomacy was the reason for their moves. In any case, you were vindicated and those countries are gone so we should have a clean game.
28 Nov 15 UTC Autumn, 2007: [Frozen-Antarctica]:But I suffered, if the allegations are true! no hard feelings though... gg.
03 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2009: GameMaster: SneakySquirrel was banned: multiple accounts. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
03 Dec 15 UTC Spring, 2009: [Oz]:Im back, wooo, misunderstanding so i was banned but thats all sorted out and im back
14 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Quebec]:Good game, fun playing with all of you. I'm pressing the draw button after the retreat phase.
14 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: [Quebec]:* SA not oficially defeated yet, draw after the build phase.
14 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: [South-Africa]:Never playing with Quebec again. Such a pansy
14 Dec 15 UTC Autumn, 2011: [USA]:Good game guys and South Africa it's just a game dude
15 Dec 15 UTC [South-Africa]:Ghana feels the same way
15 Dec 15 UTC [Quebec]:lol
15 Dec 15 UTC [Near-East]:Thanks for the game everyone. To be honest I never thought I would make it through to the end.
15 Dec 15 UTC [Near-East]:When USA and Quebec offered a chance of a 4 way draw I took it but I really thought you guys would go for a 2 way draw once SA and Kenya were out. Can you explain why you didn't go for a 2 way?
15 Dec 15 UTC [USA]:We offered a 4 way so I wouldn't then go back on our word near east
15 Dec 15 UTC [Quebec]:Yep. Trustworthy partners are hard to find in this game. I just found the first in USA and figured we should try to turn more players to the 'good' side of the force :)
In reality though, the pot was not large enough to want to screw everyone over and prolong the game. It's winner take all which means USA and me would both be nervous about the stab once we got close to 44 sc's. Just didn't seem like it was worth the risk.
15 Dec 15 UTC [USA]:So true quebec
15 Dec 15 UTC [Quebec]:*Final note, I believe Ghana started late and almost got killed but was able to convince europe to move out of africa and then followed him in for the stab after which he negotiated the 4th spot. Uncanny diplo abilities, the best I have seen so far in this game, well done!
15 Dec 15 UTC [Argentina]::( joined late but still had fun
15 Dec 15 UTC [USA]:I've made a game called OMG! You Killed India if anyone up for that
15 Dec 15 UTC [Argentina]:im down
15 Dec 15 UTC [USA]:Cool
15 Dec 15 UTC [Argentina]:I may be a late add though since I got a bunch of games currently but some will end in the next few days
15 Dec 15 UTC [Quebec]:I'm in
15 Dec 15 UTC [USA]:Awesome quebec
15 Dec 15 UTC [Europe]:GG you guys, nicely turned that end game. Ghana did trick me after I did my best to rally countries against the U.S./Queb party. But stabbed by Russia I became easy game for NE/Ghana.
15 Dec 15 UTC [USA]:Gg Europe and nice try haha
16 Dec 15 UTC [India]:You killed India? That hurts man, that hurts
16 Dec 15 UTC [South-Africa]:Salty SA also says good game. But why kill me off?
16 Dec 15 UTC [USA]:You was a great warrior south Africa I enjoyed watching your moves but you was dangerous to the alliance so you had to go but you gave us difficulties
16 Dec 15 UTC [Ghana]:Many thanks for the game, it was a very difficult game from my perspective, as the Quebec & USA alliance was so strong from the start, it proved impossible to create an effective alliance to create a successful fight back.
They could not be split, neither could they be defeated.
The only thing left was to join them.
20 Dec 15 UTC [Kenya]:GG, y'all. I enjoyed chatting with you. Happy holidays.
20 Dec 15 UTC [Quebec]:Thanks, Happy Holidays 2u2!

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USA
castor troy (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 23 D
27 supply-centers, 26 units
Quebec
Dutcher (1143 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 23 D
23 supply-centers, 23 units
Ghana
The Lord Duke (3898 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 23 D
18 supply-centers, 18 units
Near-East
Marvin Dent (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 5 D, won: 23 D
18 supply-centers, 18 units
Europe
0k0k0 (4755 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
South-Africa
nickste89 (1816 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Western-Canada
Wartec (263 D)
Defeated. Bet: 1 D
Kenya
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Oz
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
India
mromano2 (107 D)
Defeated. Bet: 1 D
Russia
Metternich2.0 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Pacific-Russia
T-HUN (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 1 D
Frozen-Antarctica
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Libya
flix1 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Brazil
inquisitor000 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Argentina
Toemato (21 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 1 D
China
beneby (9 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 3 D
Civil Disorders
stoni90 (780 D)Pacific-Russia (Spring, 2003) with 2 centres.
Paradox (263 D)China (Spring, 2007) with 5 centres.
SneakySquirrel (118 D)Oz (Autumn, 2009) with 0 centres.
Codename_Dutchess (0 D X)India (Autumn, 2006) with 1 centres.
ismahale (0 D X)Western-Canada (Autumn, 2000) with 2 centres.
Chessok (0 D X)Argentina (Autumn, 2005) with 2 centres.
86hyperclumsy (14 D X)Western-Canada (Spring, 2001) with 2 centres.
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