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Finished: 11 AM Wed 21 Oct 15 UTC
rise of the alliance-5
1 day /phase
Pot: 74 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by seboomafou (267 D)
21 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1901: GLHF to all!
24 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1902: Come on, Russia :(. Game's gonna be a different adventure now.
24 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1902: Also a great lack of diplomacy! People just checking out for 10+ hours at a time. Ridiculous.
24 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1902: Yea, know what you mean, Italy. :3
25 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1902: Sorry about that chaps, I was without an internet connection .... 3rd world problem!!
26 Sep 15 UTC Autumn, 1902: That time Russia NMRed again.
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: Russia's going to miss this turn again, isn't he? :(
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: What we do? Continu, cancel or draw?
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: Wait? We can cancel a game?
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: Anyway, good question, France. NMRs honestly make me lose my appetite for a game, but I know not everybody agrees with that.

For now, my position is, if Russia AND Germany miss this turn, I'll agree to a draw shared among the remaining players.
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: ok for draw for me
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: I'd be more than glad to Draw!
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: haha Of course you would, Austria. You have my utmost sympathies, but I don't think your assailant(s) would be too keen on letting that happen. Cruel world. :(
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: NMRS are useless. We may as well cancel. We'd have to all vote cancel or draw then message the mods to show russia just AWOLed.
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: Yea, I'm not too familiar with the whole cancel mechanism. By "cancel" does it mean that everybody's credits get returned in full and we all proceed as if this game never happens?

I assume that all 7 players must vote yes, so I guess that mean we'll still have to wait until Russia (and Germany perhaps) is out of the game before we can do it?
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: If you message the mods, they could candel/draw manually. The difference between the two is Cancel, everybody gets a refund, Draw is that the remaining players get an equal share of the pot. Which means we get more of Germany and Russia are cut off from it, though I'm pretty sure only Russia would in this case.
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: Thanks, Austria. I understand it more clearly now. :)
27 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: No prob, Uberscooper.
28 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: we draw?
28 Sep 15 UTC Spring, 1903: Welcome to the game, Russia! For what it's worth, good luck friend.
04 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Valiantly fought, Austria. Commiserations. Take care and I hope to see you next time.
04 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I feel disdain towards you, Italy.
04 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I do a study across some games on evolution of human nature. The theory is that across our playing activities our true personnality appear.

England and Italy are champions in the hypocrisy sector.

I am disappoited see this "non evolution" of this nature. The true power is choose don't abuse of this power. But Always easier destroy than build
04 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I offered to let bygones be bygones.
05 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: hmmm Very interesting, France.

I made this point already to you personally, but since you're talking to me in public, I feel the need to return your remarks publicly as well.

First point: This is, for the most part, a zero-sum game. In order for you to prevail, some others must fall.

Second point: Successful backstabs are celebrated and are the hallmarks of great players.

The first and second points demonstrate that in this game, treachery is rewarded. The game is rigged to incentivize calculated, cold stabs. Not to mention that that is in fact the ONLY way to win. So really, if you're looking for saints, you're playing the wrong game.

The third and last point for you, France: the game is called diplomacy. You don't even try that hard to do any kind of diplomacy with me. If there's anything you're doing wrong, that's it. :)

So while I appreciate you making value judgments on my "personality" and lack of success in evolution (lol), I think it really boils down to one thing: I'm a better player at diplomacy than you.

*drops mic*
05 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Did he mean countries, or players?
09 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Surprising see what somebody can do just for few points. Imagine for big money, control of the oil market or the weapons.

I wish every body a lot of fun playing.
09 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Dude it's webdip.
09 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 1906: "dudes its a game" is surprisingly ineffective with Diplomacy. Considering it requires a lot of trust and kinship which will eventually result in betrayal.
10 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Oh wow. France, you're certainly an interesting character and the stuff you've been saying is just golden. Please buddy. Since you're obviously playing this game for all the wrong reasons, feel free to stop playing. Otherwise, you'll just find yourself constantly whining every time somebody stabs you in this game--and I suspect that'll happen a lot if you keep playing like that: minimum communications and constant, dubiously-set-moral-high-ground expectations that people will play the way you want them to play.

I do wish you a good day though. Take care now.
11 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: Ready up mon ami anglais! I have midterms coming soon :P
13 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 1907: Again, if we could ready up asap before midterms.
13 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 1907: Sorry, Italy. I'm not obliged to do anything based on your timetable. ;)

Besides, it does take time to get the shy Russian to talk to me. So please bear with us.
13 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 1907: Lol okay, I'll see you at 18 SCs
13 Oct 15 UTC Spring, 1907: And it's a shame to see the lack of press continue! I wish you the best in getting them to talk.
14 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sorry, Italy. But based on how last season turned out, you will not solo this game. :)

Good job, Russia and Turkey. If I must guess, looks like it's going to be a 4-way draw.
14 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: I have voted for draw. If the rest of you agree with me that a stalemate has been reached, feel free to likewise vote for draw.

If you want to keep playing, I'm game.
14 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1907: #yolo
19 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: Dear Italy,

You will be pleased to find out that Russia has committed himself to the stupidest strategy of all, which I cannot disapprove with in any stronger terms.

After all that I've done to help him get where he is now, he has chosen to shut down communications with me and move on his own, effectively ending our cooperation. As a result, I've made it a personal choice to prevent Russia from winning anything from this game.

I'm handing the solo to you.

Next year, Paris, Kiel, Portugal, Belgium, and Holland will be either vacated or left undefended. You may claim your solo by moving into these provinces.

Turkey, I'm sorry that a 4-way draw is out of the picture now. You can blame and hate Russia for this.
19 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: thats life ;(
19 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: You're right. Sorry about that, buddy. I do hope to see you in some other game. I have nothing but respect for your dogged tenacity and ever-courteous communications with me.
19 Oct 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: ;)

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seboomafou (267 D)
Won. Bet: 10 D, won: 74 D
20 supply-centers, 13 units
Aljaraf (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 4 D
8 supply-centers, 8 units
Survived. Bet: 10 D
4 supply-centers, 10 units
kojabu (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 10 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
jackal99 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
gamine (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 10 D
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PBRambo (100 D)Russia (Spring, 1903) with 3 centres.
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