Finished: 08 PM Fri 17 Jul 15 UTC
This Game is Named James.
12 hours /phase
Pot: 175 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Come on Emma, you're too good a player to let this go on.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: So it's down to two players who have benefitted the most from the numerous NMRs. Let's see what happens.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Well here's my analysis. Britain's NMR had virtually no effect, since nobody was going after him. Russia's came after he was already beaten. I don't see where him entering moves would have been much different than an NMR. That leaves Germany's. To be blunt, the game was over for him when I entered Munich in '01. Britain awoke and also came his way, so no reason for him to think he would come back. I gained some advantage from it, but no more than Austria in Warsaw. What I see is 4 evenly matched powers, and Italy in a position to be a kingmaker or come back with enough guile and skill. The two 6 unit powers have the advantage of map edge, offsetting the extra units of the two central powers. But if everyone else wants to bail, I will go along.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: Also if I remember, Russia didn't NMR, he had a green check meaning he consciously chose to enter no moves. Am I incorrect on that?
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: You can justify staying in this game if you want, but there's no way this game has been fairly balanced. You wouldn't want the game to continue if you hadn't benefitted from the missed turns (and non-missed turns of awful play where Russia consciously chose not to enter orders).

France, you took Munich in 01. No way that happens if England is actually playing because you have him to worry about. You can say no one was going after him, but if he was a viable player during 1901 then your moves would have been different.
Russia consciously choosing to enter no moves is equivalent to an NMR for all players who don't benefit from his poor play. Also, I'll add that Russia's numerous turns of poor play should make the game easier for his two primary enemies, Austria and Turkey. Which it has.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: It doesn't really matter to me. If France and Turkey want to keep playing, that's fine. I wouldn't (and haven't in a similar situation), but each to his own.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: If I've been in a game where there are no NMR's, I can't recall it. If we canceled games for that then there would be no finished games. My first year moves were the exact same as if England was playing. You just take your chances with the Channel. I can only assume Germany would have still fallen for the old Belgium trick, maybe not if England is in but who can say. If you have someone playing a little off, and purposely not entering moves, that is not Austria and Turkey's fault and is perfectly legal. If the game was totally unbalanced I would maybe think differently, but we still have a pretty interesting map here. I'll wait to hear what Turkey has to say.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: I find it totally frustrating that there are so many NMRs, but I agree, cancelling every game where this happens is sort of hoping for the perfect game. Similarly, a single new or bad player can have a similar effect. Its sort of part of the game. Using RR ratings, etc. is the only real way to respond. I say we keep playing.
08 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1903: How disappointing. I guess Germany's early statement that honour is usually a lost concept in webDip is bolstered.
08 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1904: I once again express my distinct surprise that two of the three most benefitted players don't want to cancel/draw. Good for Austria though.
08 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1904: If this game is going to go on, then I have a request. I will be hiking in Ellensburg from Thursday to Saturday, without internet access, so I am requesting a pause after the Spring retreats until Sunday morning. Thanks.
08 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1904: I'm OK with that, when you are leaving let us know and I will as well. How long does the pause last? Can one player suspend the game indefinitely by doing a pause? If that were the case I'd be less inclined.
08 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Yet another reason we should cancel, but no a player cannot suspend the game indefinitely by doing a pause. A moderator can be called in to unpause the game in case of abuse.
09 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1904: And we have another NMR approaching (albeit a clearly irrelevant one).
09 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1904: I'm supporting Denmark to Holland. I think you should do it.
09 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1904: Oops
09 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1904: I'm supporting Denmark to Holland. I think you should do it.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I am leaving now, we can unpause on Sunday morning.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: ok see you then. You have moves in, should we wait the hour for them to go through?
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: And we have another NMR approaching from England and another from Russia
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Russia's is irrelevant I guess. England, surprising. He still has a few minutes though.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: He was on only a few hours ago...
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Damn...missed it? Sorry guys...
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: no you have about 10 minutes.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: He's back. That's impeccable timing?
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Pure luck :)
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Not sure about my moves though
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Btw, Russia NMR'ing allows Turkey to walk into St. Petersburg and still capture Moscow absent Austrian interference. Not irrelevant. Just saying.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Not sure about my moves though
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: England got there in time to see it though
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Germany choosing to kill himself. Respect.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Germany suiciding. Russia not showing up for more than half the game. England appearing at the 11th hour to input moves. Needless to say I'm loving the level of competition we've got going here.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: I've seen worse. We've still got a good 5 player game going here, it's only now getting interesting! I think in Germany's position I would have done the same. He's obviously a good player but didn't want to give this one any more time.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Hey, I was in time.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: So are we pausing for Austria? I don't think we need to for the retreat phase since his unit can only disband anyway, but after that it's only fair I think, short term and he asked well in advance.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Gotta love the red "flying wedge" coming up the middle like old school football. I don't love it so much, but it is cool looking.
09 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1904: Nah, I just wanted to vacation in the beautiful Hel peninsula before the end. My apologies to all for my poor play and lack of commitment. Another time, perhaps.
10 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1905: So are we not pausing then? Too bad for Austria I guess. Remind me never to go where I have no internet access.
12 Jul 15 UTC Spring, 1906: Thanks everyone! I hope the best man wins, Turkey or France.
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: Sorry I missed that turn, on the road and internet connection problems. But England and I will recover.....
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: No doubt, I continue to make unforced errors.
13 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1906: An outside observer would probably think this is the first time I played this game, not the 1,000th time.
14 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: Wow, glad that I have healed the enmity between Italy and Austria and France, what an achievement!
15 Jul 15 UTC Autumn, 1908: You're a bridge builder!
16 Jul 15 UTC Well, that was unexpected. Someone with a 100% rating misses 3 moves? We must have really made her mad.
16 Jul 15 UTC Just popped in to have a look. That you haven't cancelled this game is bizarre. Lord Bolton must really want those points.
16 Jul 15 UTC With Turkey dropping out the game is pretty well done. Normally I wouldn't go for a 4 way draw but I'm OK with it.
16 Jul 15 UTC If you guys want to finish it out or cut it down to 3, well that can be done as well.
16 Jul 15 UTC Gg everyone
16 Jul 15 UTC sorry folks, I was travelling and thought I'd be able to get a connection somewhere, but was out of luck. Good game anyway. And congrats to you winners.

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France
Lord Bolton (583 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 44 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
michfarr (688 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 44 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
Austria
Mr. Asimov (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 44 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
England
rbeyers (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 25 D, won: 44 D
5 supply-centers, 4 units
Turkey
EmmaGoldman (1001 D)
Resigned. Bet: 25 D
8 supply-centers, 5 units
Germany
acornist (1023 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Russia
ndd763 (161 D)
Defeated. Bet: 25 D
Civil Disorders
EmmaGoldman (1001 D)Turkey (Spring, 1909) with 8 centres.
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