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Finished: 01 AM Thu 26 Mar 15 UTC
Modern Warfare I
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 451 D - Spring, 2001, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
23 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: A little friendly banter can't hurt, right?
23 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: In short, i think Poland accusation is just based on his perception that somehow the game is not going in his favor, and out of fear of me also attacking him, which would be funny since it should be clear that i am supporting his position and stick with our peace agreement and i will help him to grow if needed. My alliance with Poland should be clear, and i making it public so that he end up believing me and at least give me some answer since he is ignoring my messages. The reason i am do a lot changes if he brakes the agreement. And since he does not answer in the private chat, probably he will read it if i post it here. End of the message.
23 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: Yeah, I've sent Poland messages on numerous occasions. I've never heard back. I also don't see anything fishy about how the game has progressed thus far, except for Russia's actions, which I don't think were planned to ruin our game.
23 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: Russia's moves are so bizarre, and so is Germany's loyalty to Poland. Both of these things are bad for me, so I'm understandably annoyed.

I'm not saying that there's definitely bad stuff going on at all, but just in case there is I'd like for it to be stopped.
23 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: The only thing odd I have noticed is the Russian movements (original) and (new) players.
23 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: Well, if i am betrayed by Poland then there will be no bizarre reaction on my part. Still somehow i want to believe he is just pressured giving what he says and how he moves, so i am still hoping he relax a little bit and consider better his moves on the board and his messages.
23 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: Yeah me passing it up wasnt about perceptions of moves but because poland had claimed they were part of a group that knew each other and that poland suspected this was affecting the game.
24 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: ...and now we've lost russia again and poland...
24 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: how's that?
24 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: They have no orders prepared. Note the two red exclamation marks next to their names in the list below the map.
24 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: There is still time.
24 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: and Turkey was right
24 Feb 15 UTC Spring, 1996: I wish I hadn't been.
02 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1997: So, we lost Poland for the second time, and we lost Russia again too but now someone else picked it up again to move one unit this turn..?
02 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1997: Those picked ups, you can tell that it has to be the same guy, three guys, same kind of movements?, i don't think so. At the beginning it seemed he favored Britain, but now i have to thank him for his support there. Even if that, i do think Russia is strange.
02 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1997: About Poland, you can tell he is troubled and his absence is kind of normal in the sense of a bad government.
02 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1997: Has anyone sent an email to the mods about this?
03 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1997: Turkey did.
10 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: (goldfinger0303): Hi guys, so I've taken a look at this game pretty extensively. If there was any foul play, it was extremely well done and would've involved such extravagant efforts to cheat that, well, well done to them.

In seriousness, Russia and Poland are just poor players. Poland showed some connections to an account that was banned for being part of a school group, but nobody else in this game showed connections to that group. So, from a mod standpoint this game is good to go, as was my initial impression back in February when Turkey contacted me.
11 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: Russia isn't just a poor player, you dope of a mod. He logged in several times only to do nothing. Really, nothing.

And Poland? Jesus christ, how can I not want to play a rigged game? He's got another rigged game, too. It's the Americas. Can the mod check that game too? Yes, we're friend in real life. Yes, we talk strategy in the game on FB. We don't actually get into the specifics of movement, just that we think Egypt should do this to get that effect, Italy should move there to pressure Spain, etc. That isn't actually a crime, because we never actually created an atmosphere in which other players couldn't win because we talked pure strategy.

I wonder what the account is that was banned. I seriously do. Because I'm still playing with both of them.
11 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1998: hi all, read the moderator/Poland's reply. I am confused about the denial and then affirmation of suspicious activity. I don't know what is going on so have decided to cast a vote to cancel. I don't know how others feel, but my will to continue playing this game has diminished.
12 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1999: Well, my opinion is, just as the moderator says, Poland fault all the way, he is playing poorly, and since he had cheated before, he sends accusations out of nowhere about doing things only he is capable of doing, so now it all makes sense to me why he is doing that. If you consider Poland and Russia just as crazy dictatorships, then it's just adds as a part of a story. And as mentioned before, the match seems good.
12 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1999: It is only the polish dictator paranoia that may it look bad. Also Russia sucks, but it could count as nomads anarchy land.
12 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1999: Russia is indeed a land for the nomads - they've housed the English, the Polish, the Russians, now the Turks
12 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1999: Ukraine and Egypt too. That is already more than half of nations here. Very cosmopolitan land.
12 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1999: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Poland just did the equivalent of Bill Clinton saying "yeah, me and that woman had sex, but it was good sex, and it's not like we had a three-way or anything! How could I not want to have extra-marital sex! And I had an affair with another woman too, in the Americas, does Matt Drudge want to check her too?!? That isn't actually a crime!"

Anyway, Poland is a grade-A moron, plain and simple.
12 Mar 15 UTC Spring, 1999: (Apologies to the Clintons, Monica Lewinsky, anyone who is offended by the concept of sex, but NOT Poland.)
15 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: I agree with your points Ukraine
15 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: new spain, message for allies
15 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: Welcome to the game new spain
15 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: Welcome to the game, Spain! It's been crazy.
16 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: At least Poland is gone now (finally).
16 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: Poland will never really be gone. It will always have affected this game. It's world advice to everyone will never be forgotten. The dangers of conspiracy always remembered.

There will always be one who stood up to the men who would rule the world. The one who shielded the women. The one who passed out the bread. The man, the one man, who would have done good across the land.

I don't know if the world will ever cooperate in the same way that they did, before the war. But I do know if that we were endowed with... I'm sorry, It's just... If we were endowed with more men like Poland, Europe, the Whole of Europe, would be better prepared for a future in which we must band together and fight everyone else.

Thank you.
16 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: Well I don't know about all of that garbage, but I for one am glad that Poland is gone. As others have said (including the moderator) Poland was a bad player and worse used stories to try and influence the game. This was done just because they were a bad player, losing, and ultimately their stories were proven false through investigations. Bye Poland.
16 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: GameMaster: Chinaman Cowboy was banned: meta/no response. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
16 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: and who is that supposed to be?
16 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 1999: I assume it's Poland as he's the only replaceable country.
20 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2000: It's rather strange how there was so much talk of wanting to bring this game to a quick draw, yet not a single one of you have voted for this draw.

Then, magically, a new Spain appears, just when Italy needed to worry about his back. And this new Spain has decided to work with Germany and Italy? Seems legit..
20 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2000: Hey everyone, I see quite a few have voted for a draw (myself included).
20 Mar 15 UTC Autumn, 2000: Also in response to Egypt: I just checked this morning and voted for it. Frankly I am tired of this game and have been for a while and glad to see it happening. Also, I have no control over new players joining the game. If you have an issue or complaint about new players joining the game or if you view them as suspicious then report it. In any case hopefully this disturbing and twisted game will end soon.
23 Mar 15 UTC Ok, a public message from the headquarters in Germany. This game had been good so far, it is the end of it. I had been thinking about this system of points-per-supply, the logical thing to me would be to attack everybody, since i am already in the lead and can win the solo, but i don't feel like doing that for many reasons. One of them is the amount of time to do it, other that i liked the argumentative way of many players, also i came to realize that i would get just some more points just for points-sake, so once there is no fun and complexity this turn out to be a game of just pushing, so not very fun for me, what i like about this game is the argumentative part, once that is figured it out, then is like just kind of advancing. That is why i enjoy mostly the beginning of these games than the end of it. I definitely like more the winnes-take-all system of points, it seems like it really is more real and fair. If we were in that system, then i would go for the solo since it would make more sense, but it is not the case.

So i am saying all this, because i came to the conclusion that i would like DRAW already the game. It just seems pointless to push for me now just for few more points. That is why my other conclusion is i would try to avoid points-per-supply and play more winner-takes-all kind of games. In my opinion those really make more sense to me now. Also, i would like to say that i enjoyed this match, and is the first time i beat Britain, so nothing personal, but that was a goal i had long ago since is the hardest country to attack. It was a good game, and i hope you all enjoyed as well. GG, well played everyone.
23 Mar 15 UTC Sorry for this change of plans, but i am playing 12 diplomacy matches right now, and it is a little overwhelming, so since this game was already good and already on the finish line, i decided we better finished it off already.
23 Mar 15 UTC good game everybody!!!, and good luck with your other matches!!!. ;)
23 Mar 15 UTC I agree with German's assessment of the game and that it would be best to draw. Now we are just waiting on Ukraine and I feel it would be in the best interest of the world to end this now. So Ukraine draw the game please. Thank you!
24 Mar 15 UTC Fine, I'll draw. I think it's stupid how Britain gets the same number of points as me and Germany, despite only having 2 SCs. In most games it's the consensus not to draw unless all the countries are deserving to get the draw. And no, Germany, you *still* haven't beaten Britain. You drew.
24 Mar 15 UTC But on a lighter note, goog game, everyone. Yes, it is a good game, because Poland got knocked out.
24 Mar 15 UTC *good
24 Mar 15 UTC That's what I was talking about. Germany completely whipped past Britain to try and get a piece of me. Good for Britain, I suppose, it's unfortunate some new Spain had to come and ruin your plans of getting rid of the last two stragglers.
24 Mar 15 UTC so, it ends up with me misunderstanding how the reward points work. but you all are also to blame since also clicked draw, therefore agreeing to it.
24 Mar 15 UTC indeed

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Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 75 D
18 supply-centers, 18 units
xWaffle (357 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 75 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
LeinadT (146 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 75 D
14 supply-centers, 14 units
ND (879 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 75 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
pandas13 (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 22 D, won: 75 D
5 supply-centers, 5 units
MT_Brain (207 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 75 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
yassem (2533 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
halomaster90 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 11 D
OrangeChicken (233 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Civil Disorders
Colossus (101 D)Spain (Spring, 1999) with 6 centres.
Chinaman Cowboy (100 D)Poland (Autumn, 1999) with 0 centres.
Ldcoleman.07 (100 D)Russia (Spring, 1995) with 5 centres.
JNOVA (100 D)Russia (Autumn, 1996) with 3 centres.
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