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Finished: 07 AM Sun 07 Dec 14 UTC
Max-2
1 day /phase
Pot: 140 D - Autumn, 1921, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game won by Rodgersd09 (100 D)
08 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1901: Best of luck everyone!
08 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1901: You too
13 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1903: GameMaster: Zebra was banned: meta/no response. The time until the next phase has been extended by one phase length to give an opportunity to replace the player.
Remember to finalize your orders if you don't want to wait, so the game isn't held up unnecessarily!
15 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Looking at the map, it's not a huge loss ;)
15 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1903: Hahaha.
21 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1906: That fleet in Ankara saved Budapest's bacon...
21 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1906: ?? Please elaborate :)
21 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1906: You stopped support to Rumania, leaving the army in Budapest, keeping Vienna out of Budapest.
21 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1906: Yeah, but you would have had Rumania, so you wouldn't have been that disappointed ;) - Besides, you'll be losing them both next turn :P
25 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1908: Munich declares itself neutral and independant from Germany, joining Switzerland as an impassable territory. A proud day for Munich and its citizens
25 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1908: I for one will recognize your territory as impassable until my beer runs out
26 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1908: More beer for Italy!
26 Oct 14 UTC Spring, 1908: Sorry Munich, my army was thirsty.
28 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1909: Looks like a 4 -way. that's what I voting for now.
31 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1910: Ugh, I really messed up with that Munich move...
31 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1910: My sympathies are limited. ;-)
31 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1910: Haha, understandable
31 Oct 14 UTC Autumn, 1910: Go France ;)
05 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1912: Well that was a bloody disaster!
21 Nov 14 UTC Spring, 1917: Not a chatty bunch, are we? ;)
22 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1917: The twists and turns of this game have left me speechless...
22 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1917: Ni kidding. It's 1917!
22 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1917: I think this a one of the classics :)
23 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1917: It is epic. Great players make great games. Lets start another one and invite 3 other good players we know.
23 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1917: Ahah - I'm not experienced enough to know any :/ - You? :)
26 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1918: Wow. That was a kick in the teeth round...
27 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1918: Haha :) - the bigger they are, the harder they fall ;)
27 Nov 14 UTC Autumn, 1918: One away but not quite.
01 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1919: There's been so many twists and turns that I wouldn't be surprised now if France won this game!
01 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1919: I would...
01 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1919: You've only lost 1/3 of your land, there's still plenty of time ;)
01 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1919: The primary twist is the Russian selfishness wrt not trying to stop Turkey but to just get as many SC''s from Italy and France before turkey gets to 18. I haven't ever seen that type of play
01 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1919: Really? In PPSC, that seems to make sense to me. That's why I always help my allies crush my enemies in PPSC. No rewards for fighting me when I'm the hegemon.
01 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: *You can't stop me, forget about it, you can't stop me, forget about it, you can't stop me, can't stop me, can't stop meeee*!!! ;) - I think I'll just collapse over the line here, This is going to be exciting though! :)
01 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: Yeah, sorry if my recent moves have annoyed you Italy, but I don't see any point in playing as if it's winner-takes-all when it's not - personally, that sort of thing actually annoys me, as if people aren't playing to their own maximum advantage within the current rules then it makes it more difficult to develop your own strategy around them. (I actually much prefer WTA rules, btw, but that's another question.)
01 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: On a less serious note, I'm glad that the brave people of Russia have finally reclaimed at least _some_ of their ancestral lands!
01 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: Oh fffff, just realised that I missed my build. *facepalm*
01 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: Hahaha. Funny. I also find it amusing that Spaghetti is being served in Berlin and not Rome.
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: I guess the reason I play this game is to win, or to prevent someone else from winning through use of alliances or my own wits. To play for 2nd or 3rd and allow a solo doesn't follow the reasoning I have for playing, so it offends me. With PPSC I always just figured that me and my allies would do our best to hammer out a draw with the dominant player and prevent a solo. But to purposely undermine the alliance just to provide myself with a few more points knowing that I am allowing a solo seems selfish and cowardly.

That's all I have to say on this matter. I love this game and will probably only play WTA from here on out
02 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1920: True, but a win is a win - and I could really do with boosting my stats on that account ;) - But yeah, I prefer WTA as well - But I have really enjoyed this game!
02 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1920: Oh my days. OK, one more response before this turns into this: http://xkcd.com/386/

(a) As I said earlier, this is a PPSC game and I was playing to maximise my outcome within those rules, which is what I believe to be the fairest and least distorting type of play. I was under the impression that you would do exactly the same given the opportunity, and if you look back at 1917/18 it's clear that I would have been constantly at risk of you going for a 2-way rather than 3-way draw once we'd pushed back Turkey.

(b) Even if we are to accept your view of how and how not to play PPSC, I resent the implication that I was completely resigned to a Turkey solo. The reason I attacked Moscow and Warsaw rather than pushing harder into Germany was precisely to keep that from happening! Maybe my hopes of an eventual 2-way were naive, but that's my problem.

By the way, repeatedly posting moralistic denunciations of another country's play in Global chat would be frowned in some circles as meta-gaming...
04 Dec 14 UTC Autumn, 1920: Russia! Just press ready!
04 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: Haha, OK, OK.
04 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: Support me into moscow and mars and I'll give you spain, port and munich in the fall and we'll be done.
04 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: Pssst, Italy. I think you want to select the turkey tab.
05 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: Haha :)
05 Dec 14 UTC Spring, 1921: Oh ho ho, now who's playing for second place eh? :P
06 Dec 14 UTC Hahaha, I didn't finish last.
06 Dec 14 UTC Great game guys!
06 Dec 14 UTC Yeah, good game - well done Turkey.

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Turkey
Rodgersd09 (100 D)
Won. Bet: 20 D, won: 77 D
19 supply-centers, 16 units
Russia
LGoddard (210 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 43 D
10 supply-centers, 7 units
France
Hapapop (725 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 13 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Italy
Crash Casey (100 D)
Survived. Bet: 20 D, won: 9 D
2 supply-centers, 5 units
Germany
Tyler6478 (257 D)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
England
helms (100 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Austria
Zebra (40 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 20 D
Civil Disorders
Tyler6478 (257 D)Germany (Autumn, 1908) with 0 centres.
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