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Finished: 12 PM Sat 12 Dec 09 UTC
Be vewy vewy qwiet! (We're hunting wabbits) [GUNBO
22 hours /phase
Pot: 707 D - Spring, 1919, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
26 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1901: Since we are hunting rabbits in Europe I thought it would be helpful to know what Wikipedia says concerning the subject: The European Rabbit (Oryctolagus cuniculus) is a species of rabbit native to south west Europe (Spain and Portugal). Very helpful that.
27 Oct 09 UTC Spring, 1901: France to England - Eng Chan as DMZ?
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: France to Germany - Me Belgium, you Holland? Burgundy DMZ?
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: To France - sure, DMZ in the EC is a deal.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: This is a gunboat game - that means no talking.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: It's ambiguous: The alternative Rules listed above here say: "Public messaging only", which is what we are doing here; however the (very long...) title of this Game says at its end: [GUNBO, whatever that means..... Contradictory, in any case - which leads me at least to conclude that any of us here can choose to do whichever we want to: Either use this Global forum, or shut up, or a bit of both.....?
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: I think it is clearly meant to be gunboat.
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=490610#490610 explains that some gunboat games leave public press on so that pause requests can be made.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: The site has rules enforcement - the creator choose the "Global messages only" option and not the "No in-game messaging" option. So this is a public press only game.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: There might be a character limit on game titles - probably the "AT]" got cut off.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: Normally people choose to leave the global open on gunboats so pause request and other general messages can be posted on that. But we have to decide what will be the rules, as it´s unfair some play like gunboat and others as public press.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: Further evidence: http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=489851#489851
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: Pause/Draw requests are visible on the panel below the map - there is no need to use the global chat for that.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: Ok, if that is what the creator intended - I can live with that if all others agree.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: I've been in games with no messaging where pause requests go ignored, and it sucks. It's much harder to pretend to not see an actual request that has a reason and time frame attached. Draws I agree should not be talked about.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: This is obviously gunboat. If you can't tell from the title (BE QUIET!), you should OBVIOUSLY be able to infer it from the [GUNBO at the end.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: Furthermore in the thread which advertised it in the forums, it was specifically mentioned as an anonymous WTA gunboat.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: For me it has no difference, can play either gunboat or public press, but we have to decide soon an stick to one rule. I suggest each one vote and majority decide.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: I vote gunboat.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: I vote public press (that is what I joined in the first place)
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: No. You didn't. You're just can't read.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: Gunboat (that is why I joined in the first place) - although i do enjoy the occasional off-topic discussion.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: Come on, don´t get this to be personal. Not everybody read the post in the forum (I didn´t, just see a WTA game with 6 people ready to start).
I will vote for gunboat, as I see that´s the way the game was meant to be.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: @Turkey - what do you mean I can't read? I joined a game that said: "Public messaging only, Anonymous players"
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: @Turkey - I join through the games interface, not the forum. I never read the forum.
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: @Turkey - "You're just can't read." - and you just don't know grammer
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: At least England and Turkey are far away, so this won´t screw the game balance :-)
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: *grammar
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: I was considering sending some of the fleets through the Mediterranean to teach him some English :)
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: Hahaha... I was originally going to type you're just stupid, but I changed my mind. Guess I forgot to change the you're. :-P
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: These above exchanges have convinced me to also vote Gunboat! The quiet will be a blissful enjoyment.......
What if our votes are not unanimous? England is already a dissenting vote. Will we decide by unanimity or by majority vote?? And how are we going to decide about THAT? LOL..... :-))
27 Oct 09 UTC Autumn, 1901: No, I will agree to the prevailing vote. As far as I see I am the only one for public press, and already 4 have votes no press, so let it be no press. And let this be the last message :)
10 Dec 09 UTC Good game guys, i feel I lose my chance to win when I can´t take Turkey quick enough.
10 Dec 09 UTC It was the correct result. I think if we all played sensibly any two of us could have prevented the third from an outright win. Congrats to both of you, it was a good game.
10 Dec 09 UTC Thanks for the game!

I don't think taking Turkey more quickly would have given you the win. Without fleets in the Med Russia can't get into Venice. Nevertheless it was a good try - and it saved my butt. :)
11 Dec 09 UTC It was a foolish stab Russia... That was your problem. You should have used me for a little bit longer to get past Italy, and then you could have soloed once you stabbed me.

You stabbed me right when we had broken Italy, which meant that Italy got off when he should have been eliminated, and instead, you had to retreat somewhat to fight me.

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Russia
rdrivera2005 (3533 D (G))
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 236 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Germany
bloodstock (544 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 236 D
11 supply-centers, 11 units
Italy
sswang (3471 D)
Drawn. Bet: 101 D, won: 236 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
England
kiv (2788 D)
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
France
Pantalone (5 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
Austria
Stagnant (280 D)
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
Turkey
rlumley (0 D X)
Defeated. Bet: 101 D
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