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Finished: 10 PM Wed 27 Aug 14 UTC
Private Sauerkraut in my lederhosen
3 days /phase
Pot: 175 D - Spring, 1903, Finished
Classic, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
08 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1901: The Linzer Torte (or Linzertorte) is an Austrian torte with a lattice design on top of the pastry.[1] It is named after the city of Linz, Austria.

Linzer Torte is a very short, crumbly pastry made of flour, unsalted butter, egg yolks, lemon zest, cinnamon and lemon juice, and ground nuts, usually hazelnuts, but even walnuts or almonds are used, covered with a filling of redcurrant jam or, alternatively, plum butter, thick raspberry,
or apricot jam. It is covered by a lattice of dough strips. The dough is rolled out in very thin strips of pastry and arranged to form a criss-cross design on top of the preserves. The pastry is brushed with lightly beaten egg whites, baked, and sometimes decorated with sliced almonds.
08 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1901: Sounds delicious. Can the Sultan have some sent to Constantinople, please? Or is this an invitation to come and get it ourselves? ;)
08 Aug 14 UTC Spring, 1901: The Czar of Russia must respectfully decline your offer as he has a slight Imperial indigestion of Russian Salad. He will however order a dish once he recovers, and thanks his Austrian Excellency for his kind offer.
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: I'm not sure how to interpret some of the moves made in the autumn turn, namely the German move to Heligoland and the Austrian move to Budapest. You all get that in order to claim a territory you have to have a unit (army or navy) standing on it at the end of the autumn turn, right? Thereafter it is yours, until someone else stands on it at the end of the autumn turn. So, for example, Budapest would remain Austrian (since it was coloured red at the start of this year) regardless of whether an Austrian unit stands on it or not, until such a time when someone places a unit there at the end of an autumn turn. Serbia, on the other hand, was neutral at the beginning of the spring turn, and that means in order to claim it Austria would need to have a unit stationed there at the end of the autumn turn. Moving back to Budapest means that Serbia remains neutral (i.e. unclaimed). If the Austrian army had stayed there in the autumn turn, then Serbia would become Austrian territory. The Austrian unit would then be able to leave Serbia, and the territory would remain Austrian until someone else would claim it (by placing a unit there at the end of the autumn turn). The same is the case for Denmark.

I hope this makes sense? If you have any questions then please don't hesitate to ask.
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: No I didn't. Now that makes more sence. Thanks
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: Lets keep this game running for a few more turns...like like we have to learn a bit
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: QUESTIONS:
- What happend in Bulgaria? Looks like the russian army got defeted. But was it a attack of Turky or an hold?
- Whats the Blue Line from the italy fleet to tunis a support move? Cause I did a support move from Viena to Budapest and thats yellow
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: - An Army that hold a land in Autumn holds owns the Land.
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: No - blue lines are convoy. An army is not able to move from Apu to Tunis without convoy, as the two territories are not connected (water between). England also convoyed from Yor to Norway.
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: I think the reason things looks fishy at Rumania is that the Russian navy at Bulgaria needs retreat orders, as Turkey (AKA The Great Devourer) moved an army in with support from the Black Sea - isn't that right Mikkel? Is that also the reason why it is not possible for the rest of us to fill in orders?
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: Is it even possible for the Russian fleet at Rumania to retreat? There is no unoccupied territories to move to?
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: As to the Rumania situation: the Turkish army in Bulgaria attacked Rumania with support from the navy in the Black Sea. The Russian navy in Rumania needs to retreat, but since there is a Russian army in Sevastopol it cannot retreat there. The other option is the Black Sea, which is also occupied. It would never be able to retreat to Bulgaria, because you cannot retreat to a territory from which you were attacked. Therefore, the Russian navy has no options left and must therefore disband. For some fucked-up reason this isn't done automatically, even when there are no available retreat options, so we must wait for Russia to manually disband the navy (or for the turn to run out, in which case all retreating units that haven't received any orders are disbanded).
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: All these things are explained in the introduction to the rules, which can be found here:


A more detailed explanation of the rules are in the pdf I sent you a while ago (see page 4 onwards), which can also be found here:

12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: So your saying that we should be able to fill in order in Autumn? And its blocked cause of the rumenaia situation?
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: No. We did all fill in orders for autumn (except France), and those orders were executed (for example, your autumn moves included moving your fleet to Greece and your army back to Budapest. Those orders were executed, as you can see on the map). Each turn consists of two sub-turns or phases, so to speak: the execution of the orders, followed by retreats. When you don't have any units that are forced to retreat then you don't act have any orders to fill in during the retreat phase.
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: Just to make sure it's 100% clear: each year consists of two turns (spring and autumn), after which there is a build phase. Each turn consists of an orders phase and (possibly) a retreat phase (if there are any units forced to retreat). At the end of the autumn turn (so after the orders phase and the possible retreat phase) there is a build phase where all players with excess supply centres get to build units so that the total number of units they command equals the number of supply centres they control.

To put that into context of the current game: in the first turn (spring 1901) we all filled in our moves (except France), and these moves were then executed at the end of the turn (you moved to Serbia and Albania). After the spring moves were executed there were no units that were forced to retreat, therefore there was no retreat phase, and the game moved directly on to the autumn 1901 turn. We then all filled out our autumn moves (again except France) and those moves were executed (you moved your army back to Budapest and your fleet conquered Greece). After the execution of the autumn moves, the Russian fleet in Rumania was forced to retreat because of my successful attack on Rumania. Therefore, the game did not move directly on to builds, and instead there was a retreat phase where Russia was asked to retreat his fleet to somewhere. Since the rest of us didn't have any units that were forced to retreat none of us had to fill anything out. Russia has now disbanded his fleet (since there were no place it could retreat to) and we are now in the build phase. Everyone who currently controls more supply centres than he has units get to build a unit for each supply centre he has in surplus. For example, Italy has 5 supply centres and 3 units, so he gets to build 2 additional units (2 fleets or 2 armies, or a fleet and an army), which can be stationed in any of his home supply centres (Veneto, Rome or Naples). Because of Italy's attack on Trieste you regrettably do not have any builds this year, so you don't have any orders to fill out during the current build phase.
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: It's good that you ask; I thought all of this was totally clear, but I guess it's been a long time since my first game, so I've apparently blissfully forgotten that it isn't ;) Is it clear now?
12 Aug 14 UTC Autumn, 1901: Yap that really helped a lot. Thanks
21 Aug 14 UTC Dear me, I hope we can all agree that Diplomacy is never personal!
21 Aug 14 UTC Thats not the point. I want to learn here. this is not for winning or sceaming or else

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varantir (108 D)
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